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I think this is the right time to start the official OCN thread of the Samsung 960 PRO and 960 EVO NVMe SSD's.

Amazon said they plan to start selling them on the 6th of December, and I know some members here already seem to have them. Since these new SSD's are based on a completely new controller, they do not fit well with the previous 950 Pro series. So a new Owners thread is in order.

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1. It has been determined by at least one member that the new 960 series does NOT boot on older BIOS only hardware such as the x58 chipset. Confirmation is needed from more OCN members though please. ALSO, see Jan 1st edit below.
2. New Magician 5.0 software released today on November 28th 2016.

EDIT: Jan 1st, 2017
Found this interesting information on new years day, its a method to boot the 960 SSD on older bios systems apparently, but I have not verified if it works or not. I hope someone can verify this method and comment on the thread how easy or hard it is to do.
https://audiocricket.com/2016/12/31/booting-samsung-sm961-on-asus-p6t-se-mainboard/
EDIT2: July 15th, 2017
Well this DUET UEFI boot on older hardware works far better than I expected it to. In the many years I have had my system, Xeon + x58 + 12GB DDR3 I have never seen it run this good before. Shaved time off my bootup as well. Well worth the investment.



Samsung 960 webpage HERE!

Samsung Driver / Firmware / Magician Download page HERE! (NOTE: Always download and install the latest Magician software, because it is the only way to know when new drivers OR firmware becomes available)

DIRECT LINK TO THE NVMe Drivers, now on Version 3.0
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools/#ge_semi_anchor_stand4

Let the 960 series Owners now come forth and share their performance results and experiences please. Thank you very much.





 

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Just as a note, clubs/threads can't be tagged Official unless a section editor approves of it (or a section mod if there aren't any editors).
 

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Just as a note, clubs/threads can't be tagged Official unless a section editor approves of it (or a section mod if there aren't any editors).
OK thank you, I just spoke with a admin and I thought he told me to start this thread first. So I need to remove just the part about official, right? Then the admin can change it later if they so wish.
 

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Just as a note, clubs/threads can't be tagged Official unless a section editor approves of it (or a section mod if there aren't any editors).
I find the "Official" pointless to be honest. It's a discussion forum, nor an official document from Samsung. "Official" adds nothing to the table in a message board discussion thread unless it was some official statement from a company addressing something.

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I find the "Official" pointless to be honest. It's a discussion forum, nor an official document from Samsung. "Official" adds nothing to the table in a message board discussion thread unless it was some official statement from a company addressing something.

Just my 2 cents
It's meant to be official in the capacity of "This is OCN's official thread for this", not "This is Samsung's own official thread here", if that makes sense, so that there aren't multiple clubs/threads on the same thing.
 

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Figured it out, I removed the official tag. Thanks for the heads up.

I just want to start seeing REAL info on this SSD from people who claim to OWN them. However, talk of this SSD is already poisoning other SSD threads and taking them off topic. Its more then an appropriate time to start a thread just for this amazing SSD. I am sure others agree.
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It's meant to be official in the capacity of "This is OCN's official thread for this", not "This is Samsung's own official thread here", if that makes sense, so that there aren't multiple clubs/threads on the same thing.
Yeah good point, then they should actually read "[Official] Samsung 960 Pro OCN Owners Club", haha...
 

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Originally Posted by Chunky_Chimp View Post

It's meant to be official in the capacity of "This is OCN's official thread for this", not "This is Samsung's own official thread here", if that makes sense, so that there aren't multiple clubs/threads on the same thing.
oh ok, thanks for the clarification
 

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Waiting for the 960 Pro 512GB
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I have seen one reference in the 950 thread that the 960 does not boot on X58. Would be nice to verify this 100% by hearing from multiple sources who actually own both. Or is there already confirmation elsewhere on the internets?
 

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I have seen one reference in the 950 thread that the 960 does not boot on X58. Would be nice to verify this 100% by hearing from multiple sources who actually own both. Or is there already confirmation elsewhere on the internets?
Yeah confirmation will come eventually, we just have to wait for this to hit the shelves in mass. I personally have a hard time believing that Samsung dropped support for older systems entirely though. Why in the world would you limit your sales to just new systems when the only real requirement is PCIe and only PCIe? That is exactly like GPU manufacturers making new GPU's work only on PCIe 3.0 and not the millions of systems with only PCIe 2.0. But since this 960 series has a new controller it very well could be concentrating on the new UEFI technologies and not have backwards compatibility. This would mark the first time in computer history that a storage company did not build in backwards compatibility for consumer level IDE legacy support though. Which seems highly unlikely to me.

The weird thing is building in legacy bios support does nothing what so ever to performance numbers on newer systems. So dropping support for legacy systems does only one possible thing, lose you millions of dollars. Seems crazy for a business to do that intentionally....
 

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Congratulations, lets hope the wait was worth it for you
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And lets also hope stock does not fall short right away.
Well with some luck i can grab another with a higher capacity at a later date but via a phone call to the company i bought it from there is an apparent shortage of V-Nand

this is live from the website that i purchased it from

like you said hopefully the stock doesn't fall short

"November 2016 Update

Due to NAND chip shortages across the industry, Samsung has delayed availability of this range until late November / early December.

We understand this comes as a disappointment to our customers. Unfortunately this will affect all sellers of this drive worldwide. SPAN.COM will be one of the first stores anywhere to stock this item and at a very competitive price. To ensure you receive yours as soon as possible, we strongly recommend ordering online today, as shortages are expected to continue until well into 2017."
 

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Well with some luck i can grab another with a higher capacity at a later date but via a phone call to the company i bought it from there is an apparent shortage of V-Nand

this is live from the website that i purchased it from

like you said hopefully the stock doesn't fall short

"November 2016 Update

Due to NAND chip shortages across the industry, Samsung has delayed availability of this range until late November / early December.

We understand this comes as a disappointment to our customers. Unfortunately this will affect all sellers of this drive worldwide. SPAN.COM will be one of the first stores anywhere to stock this item and at a very competitive price. To ensure you receive yours as soon as possible, we strongly recommend ordering online today, as shortages are expected to continue until well into 2017."
Yep, new NAND type usually does result in early shortages until during off season when less people are buying them and they catch up to normal demands and then manufacture a surplus for future products. Not only that but OEM's are probably getting first crack at them I assume, assuming there are OEM versions being made.

I plan on getting two of these PCIe ssd's, but I might just replace my 850 ssd with a 950 since I know for fact it boots on my system. Then populate the second slot with the 960 just for local storage. Then once this machine gets retired and replaced with a Z270 board transfer both the 950 and 960 to the new system, and then hope Optane isn't far behind, lol. My entire upgrade path relies on Optane support being fully implemented on my next system and I don't think that is coming before we see Z270.
 

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Im waiting patiently for NCIX Canada to get stock of the 512GB 960 Pro. Thats the one im getting if i can get one before year end as my company has the $$$ to spend so i need to spend it this year
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Otherwise if i cannot then a 950 Pro will have to do sadly.
I check with my Account manager weekly and also keep tabs on Newegg.ca and CanadaComputers. Anywhere else i should look to find one?
 
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