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SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5850: Catalyst 9.11 vs. 10.3a

I usually do a driver comparison every revision but I have been slacking lately. Thought now would be a good time to catch up. Where we were around the second official drivers to support the 5800 series (Catalyst 9.11)(November 17, 2009) and where we are present day, with the most current drivers (Catalyst 10.3a)(March 24, 2010).

Here we go.


Testbed:
E8300 @ 3.8G
ASUS P5Q-PRO
6GB DDR2
ATI Catalyst 9.11
ATI Catalyst 10.3a
SAPPHIRE Radeon 5850 1GB (stock)(725 mhz core / 1000 mhz mem)

3DMark 06
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 18313
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 18002 (1% loss)





3DMark Vantage: Performance
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = P11253
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = P12094 (7% gain)





3DMark Vantage: High
5850 (Cat. 9-11) = H8730
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = H9464 (8% gain)





Call of Duty: World at War
1920 x 1080, 4xAA, 16xAF, DX9, Maximum Detail, Recorded demo
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 117 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 119 fps average (2% gain)





Call of Juarez:
1920 x 1080, 4xAA, DX10, Highest Quality Settings
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 55 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 57 fps average (5% gain)





Cinebench:
OpenGL
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 9040
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 9009 (0.3% loss)





Crysis:
1600 x 1200, DX10, 64 bit, Very High, 0xAA
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 34 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 37 fps average (8% gain)

Crysis:
1900 x 1200, DX10, 64 bit, Very High, 0xAA
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 30 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 31 fps average (3% gain)

Crysis:
1920 x 1080, DX10, 64 bit, Very High, 4xAA
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 27 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 29 fps average (7% gain)





Devil May Cry 4:
1600 x 1200, DX10, 8xAA, 16xAF, Highest Quality Settings
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 141 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 159 fps average (13% gain)





Dirt 2:
1920 x 1080, DX11, 8xAA, Ultra Quality Settings
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 47 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 59 fps average (26% gain over stock)





Enemy Territory: QUAKE Wars
1920 x 1080, DX10, 16xAF, 4xAA, Highest Quality Settings
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 104 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 101 fps average (3% loss)





FARCRY 2:
1920 x 1080, DX10, Ultra High Settings, 16xAF, 4xAA
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 61 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 62 fps average (2% gain)



 

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Grand Thief Auto IV
1920 x 1080, DX10, 16xAF, 4xAA, Highest Quality Settings
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 55 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 55 fps average (0.9% loss)





Furmark:
1920 x 1080, OpenGL, 8xAA
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 35 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 35 fps average (0% gain / loss)



Left 4 Dead:
1920 x 1080, DX9, 16xAF, 8xAA, Highest Quality Settings, Recorded demo
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 139 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 136 fps average (2% loss)





Mirror’s Edge
1920 x 1080, DX10, 16xAF, 8xAA, Highest Quality Settings, Motion Blur Enabled, (3) Three Timed Races
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 86 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 88 fps average (2% gain)





Resident Evil 5:
1920 x 1080, DX10, 16xAF, 8xAA, Highest Quality Settings, Motion Blur Enabled
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 75 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 79 fps average (5% gain)





Street Fighter IV:
1920 x 1080, DX9, 16xAF 8xAA, Highest Quality Settings
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 78 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 79 fps average (1% gain)





S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call Of Pripyat:
1920 x 1080, DX11, 16xAF, 4xAA, Preset: Ultra
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 41 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 42 fps average (4% gain)





S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky:
1920 x 1080, DX10.1, 16xAF, 4xAA, Preset: Ultra
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 31 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 33 fps average (6% gain)





The Last Remnant:
1920 x 1080, DX9, 0xAA
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 103 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 103 fps average (0% gain / loss)





Tom Clancy: H.A.W.X.:
1920 x 1080, DX10.1, 16xAF, 8xAA, Highest Quality Settings
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 59 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 70 fps average (18% gain)





Unigine Heaven:
1920 x 1080, DX11, 16xAF, 8xAA, Highest Quality Settings, Tessellation on
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 17 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 19 fps average (14% gain)





Unigine Sanctuary:
1920 x 1080, DX10, 16xAF, 8xAA, Highest Quality Settings
5850 (Cat. 9.11) = 94 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 100 fps average (6% gain)





X3 Terran Conflict:
1920 x 1080, DX10, 16xAF, 8xAA, Highest Quality Settings
5850 (Cat. 9-11) = 89 fps average
5850 (Cat. 10.3a) = 86 fps average (3% loss)



 

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Originally Posted by IEATFISH
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Wow, very nice.

One thing I have noticed after getting the 10.3 from ATI's site is that my OpenGL stuff works MUCH better. Sketchup and Google Earth are quite a bit smoother.

I should go back and run all the Unigine benchmarks again using OpenGL, see if there are massive improvements.
 

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Extremely informative.
Thanks for doing this Rico. I was going to do one myself, but then I saw my Bad Company icon...
hehe glad to see someone isn't lazy. I was looking for a good comparison. Well done.
 

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Extremely informative.
Thanks for doing this Rico. I was going to do one myself, but then I saw my Bad Company icon...
hehe glad to see someone isn't lazy. I was looking for a good comparison. Well done.
Thanks, glad you liked it.


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Hey great benchmarks there ,good job.
If ya feel like doing 4 more overclock same as Contagion,just with your different CPU to see what ya get.
I did the 4 overclocked benches here for fun and to see the diff in cpu's.
http://www.overclock.net/ati/698138-...-5870-a-4.html
Well I don’t have another cpu at the moment for that sort of comparison. If you are talking about overclocking the video card, I don’t see the need for overclocking the gpu for a driver comparison. The gains and scaling will be very close to the same as when the card is at stock setting (within ~2-3% of course).

If you are interested in what the HD 5850 does overclocked, please read my review below:

SAPPHIRE HD 5850 1GB Review
http://www.overclock.net/ati/622089-...ml#post7822314
 

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Very nice OP. Thanks for your efforts!
 

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Well I don't have another cpu at the moment for that sort of comparison. If you are talking about overclocking the video card, I don't see the need for overclocking the gpu for a driver comparison. The gains and scaling will be very close to the same as when the card is at stock setting (within ~2-3% of course).

If you are interested in what the HD 5850 does overclocked, please read my review below:

SAPPHIRE HD 5850 1GB Review
http://www.overclock.net/ati/ati/ati...ml#post7822314
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Thanks for the other benches.
Sorry man I did not explain myself ,I was just messing around and I was wanting to see the effect of the CPU with similar graphics cards overclocked to around 1000/1250
So basically I just added the numbers from some benches with different CPUS .Its been done a hundred times before,
I just thought it was interestind thats all
Heres an EG:
 

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Hey Rico,

I just tried 10.3 regular and I'm getting screen flicker (minor, but annoying - seemingly during video). Still haven't touched the BIOS, should I roll back (I saw the hotfix for 10.1)? 10.3a?
 

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Thanks for the other benches.
Sorry man I did not explain myself ,I was just messing around and I was wanting to see the effect of the CPU with similar graphics cards overclocked to around 1000/1250
So basically I just added the numbers from some benches with different CPUS .Its been done a hundred times before,
I just thought it was interestind thats all
Heres an EG:


Np, sorry for the misunderstanding. Here is my FC2 scores with Cat. 9.11. Keep in mind, would be good to have all the systems using the same drivers. I'll try to do a 1Ghz bench with Cat. 10.3a tonight.

FARCRY 2:
1920 x 1080, DX10, Ultra High Settings, 16xAF, 4xAA
5850 = 61 fps average
5850 1Ghz = 73 fps average (19% gain over stock)
4850 X2 = 57 fps average





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Hey Rico,

I just tried 10.3 regular and I'm getting screen flicker (minor, but annoying - seemingly during video). Still haven't touched the BIOS, should I roll back (I saw the hotfix for 10.1)? 10.3a?

Are you wiping the drivers on each and every uninstall/reinstall of the drivers? I haven't had any issues with any of the drivers for the 5k series (9.10 to 10.3a). And 10.3 is the same as 10.3a, there is just a 10.3b now, so to keep things clear, people call out 10.3a.
 

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Hey Rico,

I just tried 10.3 regular and I'm getting screen flicker (minor, but annoying - seemingly during video). Still haven't touched the BIOS, should I roll back (I saw the hotfix for 10.1)? 10.3a?
10.3b preview driver, try this one.
 

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I still think HD 58XX got more improvement from drivers left.
 

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I still think HD 58XX got more improvement from drivers left.

Without a doubt, just the tip of the iceberg. ATi has made performance in the 4k series the entire year of 2009, biggest one in Cat. 9.8. Actually they are still making 4k improvements in 10.3.
 
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