[Seti] [email protected] response to Niesluchowski's firing

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gamer11200

Discussion Starter · Dec 5, 2009

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I've been getting a lot of questions and comments about the forced resignation of an IT administrator in the Higley School District in Arizona. There's a lot of misinformation flying around, mostly due to poor reporting. First lets start with the facts we know: NEZ (Brad Niesluchowski) was an IT administrator at Higley school district. He allegedly installed and ran BOINC and attached to the [email protected] project. The district alleges damages of $1.2M to $1.6M because of the use of [email protected] both due to wear and tear on the processors and electricity usage. Niesluchowski claims that the district administrator has a personal vendetta against him.

Eric Korpela answers a lot of questions and expresses his opinions on this whole issue on the [email protected]me discussion board [see above link]

For those that are interested in the news article, click here for the post on it.

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lockdownx1x

· #2 · Dec 5, 2009

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$1.2M to $1.6M

Yeah Right...

Gexx

· #3 · Dec 5, 2009

because the school wont upgrade those PC's in the next 3-4 years right?

Nautilus

· #4 · Dec 5, 2009

lol. do school computers have 1Kw PSUs and TESLA C1060s?

sweffymo

· #5 · Dec 5, 2009

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because the school wont upgrade those PC's in the next 3-4 years right?

Knowing MY old school district, no. I was still using old Mac desktops running 8.6 in 2002... We got some PowerMacs that were the grey and white ones that were still inside the monitors, and we referred to them as "Supercomputers." We didn't even get eMacs until 2005-6, and then there were only a few.

Plus, [email protected] is completely worthless when compared to [email protected] I care less about trying to find aliens that don't exist (or are intentionally ignoring us because humanity is so stupid) than I do about saving lives through breakthroughs in medicine...

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Vostro

· #6 · Dec 5, 2009

Are they kidding about 1.2 - 1.6 MILLION dollars?! I thinks it funny that they claim that he caused wear and tear on the CPUs.

dralb

· #7 · Dec 5, 2009

I'd like to see this go to court to see them prove wear and tear on the CPU's, lol. How big is this school system anyways. 1.2-1.6 mil.????

gamer11200

Discussion Starter · #8 · Dec 5, 2009

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because the school wont upgrade those PC's in the next 3-4 years right?

My school board upgraded computers in 8 year cycles. We had computers that were 500mhz running windows 98 up to 2008 when they replaced them with C2Ds @ 2.4ghz with XP Pro.

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uNeec

· #9 · Dec 5, 2009

Will there ever be [email protected]? Dedicate our idle pc cycle to watch porn.

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gamer11200

Discussion Starter · #10 · Dec 5, 2009

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Will there ever be [email protected]? Dedicate our idle pc cycle to watch porn.

I think this already exists and is the biggest project worldwide

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crashovride02

· #11 · Dec 5, 2009

This is a joke right? How can they even begin to measure "wear and tear" on the cpu's????? And even the electricity wouldn't add up to anything close.

Opeth07

· #12 · Dec 6, 2009

this jackoff talks about misinformation and then mentions the millions in damages. WOW.

H-man

· #13 · Dec 6, 2009

My dad thinks that cpus are like engines, I tell him to go enjoy his bloatware.

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Applying power tools to delicate problems since 2009.
What have I done......... -Murlocke

Wrath II: The Dragon has Ryzen again.

CPU: AMD Ryzen x6 1600 | Motherboard: Asus Prime B350 Plus | GPU: Nvidia 970 3.5GB | RAM: ECC 16GB*2 2933MHz 14-16-16-16-32-52 M391A2K43BB1-CPB (B-die) | Hard Drive: 500GB WD Blue 3D NAND | Power Supply: Seasonic SSR-650FM | Cooling: CRYORIG H7 Tower Cooler For AMD/Intel CPU CRYORIG H7 | Cooling: FAN: 4x ARCTIC F12 PWM PST (120mm) Idles at 400RPM. | Case: Thermaltake Core G21 with rubber isolators to carry all fans. | Operating System: Windows 10 EDU/ OO shut up 10 | Monitor: QNIX 2710 @110Hz with a bunch of k'nex to hold papers above and around it. | Monitor: Dell 21.5" | Keyboard: Kinesis advantage modded to PS/2, 4th foot Pedal connected. | Keyboard: Some random HP branded USB unit I redirect to Virtual Machines | Keyboard: Kinesis Savant Elite Programmable Triple Foot Pedal | Mouse: Razer Deathadder 3.5G | Anker Vertical Mouse | Audio: Klipsch iFi I found dumpster diving. | Other: CyberPower 810 Watt Pure Sine wave UPS

A-E-I-Owned-You

· #14 · Dec 6, 2009

Vendetta for reals. Damn son.

H-man

· #15 · Dec 6, 2009

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Vendetta for reals. Damn son.

Well he thinks the 3850 in his computer crashed it twice.

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Applying power tools to delicate problems since 2009.
What have I done......... -Murlocke

Wrath II: The Dragon has Ryzen again.

CPU: AMD Ryzen x6 1600 | Motherboard: Asus Prime B350 Plus | GPU: Nvidia 970 3.5GB | RAM: ECC 16GB*2 2933MHz 14-16-16-16-32-52 M391A2K43BB1-CPB (B-die) | Hard Drive: 500GB WD Blue 3D NAND | Power Supply: Seasonic SSR-650FM | Cooling: CRYORIG H7 Tower Cooler For AMD/Intel CPU CRYORIG H7 | Cooling: FAN: 4x ARCTIC F12 PWM PST (120mm) Idles at 400RPM. | Case: Thermaltake Core G21 with rubber isolators to carry all fans. | Operating System: Windows 10 EDU/ OO shut up 10 | Monitor: QNIX 2710 @110Hz with a bunch of k'nex to hold papers above and around it. | Monitor: Dell 21.5" | Keyboard: Kinesis advantage modded to PS/2, 4th foot Pedal connected. | Keyboard: Some random HP branded USB unit I redirect to Virtual Machines | Keyboard: Kinesis Savant Elite Programmable Triple Foot Pedal | Mouse: Razer Deathadder 3.5G | Anker Vertical Mouse | Audio: Klipsch iFi I found dumpster diving. | Other: CyberPower 810 Watt Pure Sine wave UPS

MAD_J

· #16 · Dec 6, 2009

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This is a joke right? How can they even begin to measure "wear and tear" on the cpu's????? And even the electricity wouldn't add up to anything close.

I can see the electricity thing being somewhat high (yea not 1 mill lol), but it depends on how long he was running his operation for... Remember he was using 5000 computers with [email protected]

This is a perfect example of why all these distributed computing projects tell you to ask permission of the owner of each machine you install their software onto.

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Protezione

· #17 · Dec 6, 2009

If they have been running for 10 years, there may be some decent electrical costs. but if this project was ever authorized by a school admin as he says it was, and they never told him otherwise, he will get off scott free in court.

slipstream808

· #18 · Dec 6, 2009

Damn. Link doesn't work for me.

SilverPotato

· #19 · Dec 6, 2009

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My dad thinks that cpus are like engines, I tell him to go enjoy his bloatware.

Does he think that overclocking a CPU is like trying to make a car go faster than it should? If so...

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lordikon

· #20 · Dec 6, 2009

Lets do some math to see if these guys are on crack or not. First, I'm not sure how long he ran this on those machines, so that'll be the variable we're solving for. We'll also assume each computer had one CPU, and that they were paying the average cost of electricity in the US for 2009 (12 cents per kilowatt hour).

5000 CPUs * 12 cents = 60000 cents per hour = $600/hour, if the CPUs were using a kilowatt apiece. Obviously they're not using a kilowatt, so we'll assume they're using something like 65 watts each, which brings the dollar/hour down to $39/hour
$1.2 million / $39 per hour = 30769 hours = 1282 days.

So he would've had to run these machines, 24 hours per day, for about 3-4 years, give or take a year in either direction based on some estimations. I'd say the school district is BS'ing a little bit. Maybe $500k would be feasible....maybe.

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