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I mainly play FPS games. Currently have a 21.3" samsung (213T) which is great for all things expect gaming.<br />
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I have two questions:<br />
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1) Is there any downside with choosing a WS aspect ratio monitor for gaming? Do the latest FPS games typically support WS resolutions, or are they mainly set-up for 4:3 aspect ratios. For example, Far Cry did not appear to support WS resolutions (I realize this is an older game)<br />
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2) Any suggestions for a 20+ inch LCD for gaming? I've been looking at a couple of options:<br />
(a) Expensive - NEC 20WMGX2 20.1" 6ms ($613). Seems like a favourite, but very expensive by today's standards<br />
(b) Affordable - SAMSUNG 205BW Black 20" 6ms<br />
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Any other suggestions.
 

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Dell E207WFP. Great screen, but without all the bells and whistles that are on its big brother (2007WFP)
 

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all the newer games support widescreen, and it's truly an immersive experience. Go for it.!<br />
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Get a Dell 2007WFP, or 2407WFP...those things are nuts.<br />
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Or you could probably swing a 20" ACD if you're lookin at that NEC...
 

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I think all new games support WS, at least I havent seen one that doesnt. As for older games, alot of them I have found don't. Which is why I have my fullscreen monitor. <br />
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As for suggestions, I love my BenQ FP202W 20.1" 8ms monitor, not ghosting or anything, and less than $300.
 

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Many games(new and old) that don't support WS out of the box can be persuaded to do so with tweaks. <a href="http://www.widescreengamingforum.com" target="_blank">http://www.widescreengamingforum.com</a> is a great place to find reviews of games and hardware.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">all the newer games support widescreen, and it's truly an immersive experience. Go for it.!<br />
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Get a Dell 2007WFP, or 2407WFP...those things are nuts.<br />
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Or you could probably swing a 20" ACD if you're lookin at that NEC...</div>

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looking at <a href="http://www.widescreengamingforum.com" target="_blank">www.widescreengamingforum.com</a>, I see that both the 2007WFP and the 2407WFP have average response times of 16ms (see this <a href="http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/index.php?title=Master_Monitors_List" target="_blank">link</a>), which "seems" high given that many of the monitors such as the Acer 2423W has an average of 6ms.<br />
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Maybe 16ms is ok, I really dont know (I'm speaking in a relative context), but my 25ms Samsung does have ghosting when playing FPS games and I can only imagine that 6 is better than 16 (although I cant speak for the credibility of the spec or where it came from).
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">looking at <a href="http://www.widescreengamingforum.com" target="_blank">www.widescreengamingforum.com</a>, I see that both the 2007WFP and the 2407WFP have average response times of 16ms (see this <a href="http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/index.php?title=Master_Monitors_List" target="_blank">link</a>), which "seems" high given that many of the monitors such as the Acer 2423W has an average of 6ms.<br><br>
Maybe 16ms is ok, I really dont know (I'm speaking in a relative context), but my 25ms Samsung does have ghosting when playing FPS games and I can only imagine that 6 is better than 16 (although I cant speak for the credibility of the spec or where it came from).</div>
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actually searching around a bit shows that GtoG the 2407 is 6ms.
 

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2407 is f'in beautiful!!!! I LOVE IT
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">looking at <a href="http://www.widescreengamingforum.com" target="_blank">www.widescreengamingforum.com</a>, I see that both the 2007WFP and the 2407WFP have average response times of 16ms (see this <a href="http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/index.php?title=Master_Monitors_List" target="_blank">link</a>), which "seems" high given that many of the monitors such as the Acer 2423W has an average of 6ms.<br><br>
Maybe 16ms is ok, I really dont know (I'm speaking in a relative context), but my 25ms Samsung does have ghosting when playing FPS games and I can only imagine that 6 is better than 16 (although I cant speak for the credibility of the spec or where it came from).</div>
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The have the higher response time because they are S-IPS or M-PVA panels with 8-bit color.<br>
WS panels listing 6ms times are most likely TN panels with 6-bit color.<br>
This may be fine if gaming is your primary usage, but just be aware of this tradeoff.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">2407 is f'in beautiful!!!! I LOVE IT</div>
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I noticed that in your system specs you quote the version of your 2407. I know that just a couple of months ago there was much talk on forums about issues with the 2407 (and that it was worse than the 2405). I'm assuming that new versions fixed this problem. Is there any way to control getting the "good" version?<br><br>
Do you game on your monitor?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">all the newer games support widescreen, and it's truly an immersive experience. Go for it.!<br />
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Get a Dell 2007WFP, or 2407WFP...those things are nuts.<br />
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Or you could probably swing a 20" ACD if you're lookin at that NEC...</div>

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</div>I decided not to go with the 2407 because my GC will not drive games at the native resolutions and it may be some time b4 I go PCI-E (basically decided to see wher dx10 goes - and believe me, it takes great will and patience to do so - LOL!)<br />
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I was very close to ordering the 2007, but it has a native resolution of 1680x1050 and again my GC has a max of 1600x1200 for DVI, at least that is what the specs say:<br />
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<a href="http://www.bfgtech.com/images/BFG%20spec%20sheet%20pdfs/7800GS_256MB_AGP_sheet.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.bfgtech.com/images/BFG%20..._AGP_sheet.pdf</a><br />
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So right now, after quite a bit of research I think I am leaning towards the Samsung 204B. Seems like it has the right mix of everything at a very attractive price (and currently has a $60 rebate):<br />
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<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001226" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001226</a><br />
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Any thoughts before I push the proverbial button?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">looking at <a href="http://www.widescreengamingforum.com" target="_blank">www.widescreengamingforum.com</a>, I see that both the 2007WFP and the 2407WFP have average response times of 16ms (see this <a href="http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/index.php?title=Master_Monitors_List" target="_blank">link</a>), which "seems" high given that many of the monitors such as the Acer 2423W has an average of 6ms.<br />
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Maybe 16ms is ok, I really dont know (I'm speaking in a relative context), but my 25ms Samsung does have ghosting when playing FPS games and I can only imagine that 6 is better than 16 (although I cant speak for the credibility of the spec or where it came from).</div>

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</div>It don't matter. Ghosting is non-existant with my monitor.<br />
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Beautiful colour. Looks more vibrant than my old Dell Trinitron.<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">I decided not to go with the 2407 because my GC will not drive games at the native resolutions and it may be some time b4 I go PCI-E (basically decided to see wher dx10 goes - and believe me, it takes great will and patience to do so - LOL!)<br />
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I was very close to ordering the 2007, but it has a native resolution of 1680x1050 and again my GC has a max of 1600x1200 for DVI, at least that is what the specs say:<br />
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<a href="http://www.bfgtech.com/images/BFG%20spec%20sheet%20pdfs/7800GS_256MB_AGP_sheet.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.bfgtech.com/images/BFG%20..._AGP_sheet.pdf</a><br />
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So right now, after quite a bit of research I think I am leaning towards the Samsung 204B. Seems like it has the right mix of everything at a very attractive price (and currently has a $60 rebate):<br />
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<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001226" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001226</a><br />
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Any thoughts before I push the proverbial button?</div>

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</div>That can't possibly be true. It'll do 1680x1050...what kinda card doesn't? lol
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">That can't possibly be true. It'll do 1680x1050...what kinda card doesn't? lol</div>

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</div>This is an AGP card and the software control panel does not show anything above 1600x1200 as an option. When I uncheck "hide resolutions this monitor does not support", I see some analog available resolutions, but none of them are 1680x1050. The spec sheet in my post above shows 1600x1200 as the max resolution in 32-bit mode digital. It may be sad, but true. The weird thing is that 1600x1200 is more pixels than 1680x1050, so it surprises me.<br />
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Is it possible that my antiquated AGP ways are limiting me from every direction??
 

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Well - I decided to go with the Samsung 204B. It will fulfil my gaming requirements and also allow me to wait for the next upgrade in CPU (quad-core), GC (DX10) etc. I'd hate to plonk down $2.5K+ right now on a PCI-E system and be outdated within 1-1.5yrs wishing I had a DX10 rig.
 

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YES <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Thumb"><br><br>
I love having to turn my head to see what's on the other side of the display <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin"> (sorta exagerating - sorta...)
 
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