Should i overclock more?

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Ryanrocks714

Discussion Starter · Feb 12, 2006

I'm running:
P4 ht 630 3.0 ghz @3.6/ECS 915p-a mb/2 Gb 533 corsiar DDR2 4200/ 450 wt ps on a raidmax case with 80 and 120 mm fans. also i got a airpurifer in back of the case that seems to move a lot of air. lol.

These are my stats:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=71133

The sensor on Everest Ultimate says my cpu temp is at 43*C

Cpu core at 1.43 v

I'm new at overclocking and i raised my vcore voltage from 1.38 to 1.43. the temp seems good and there are no problems so far. Also i have another question, my memory timing is at 4-4-4-12. how do i change that should i change that? should i leave my voltage or make it higher or anything? thanks for reading.

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Nasgul

· #2 · Feb 12, 2006

to Overclock.net Ryan.

I would suggest not rasing the Vcore any higher and not going any higher than your current 240fsb, mostly because I see it's doing 43C, at idle I would guess?

As far as changing the timings, it would depend, if the modules can handle tighter timings they should work fine. Try 4-3-3-8 @ 2.1v-2.3v.

Other than that, it looks good.

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Ropey

· #3 · Feb 12, 2006

A CPU idle of 43C on stock heatsink for a 630 3.0 @ 3.6 is not bad at all. You have a good chip. With a Zalman CNPS 7700cu and running at 4.0GHz I am getting 44C idle and 58 load temps.

What are your load temps? This is much more important than your idle temps.

Is your ram running 1:1 or is it on a divider?

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pbasil1

· #4 · Feb 12, 2006

well i think your cpu can go much further, but its the load temps you want to keep an eye on... not idle, u want them to stay under 60c but more like 55-58 load would be best, you can up the vcore more to oc further, and u will have to loosen the timing some i would think aswell, but try and oc with the settings they have, but if you want to stay at your current OC, then try what NASGUL suggested, have you stress tested with prime95 or similar program? if not i would suggest doing so

Ryanrocks714

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 12, 2006

Ok. once again i am new at overclocking. I know only a couple things and know no thing about what they do. I know how to change the fsb number in cmos from 200 to whatever number i want as long as it boots. I dont know anything about how or why it works. i just know that my ghz goes up. once again i am new. so what is the idle temp and the boot temp and such? the temp that i was looking at was in everest and i was running dual screen, itunes, and mozilla. im not sure if thats idle or not.

Ropey

· #6 · Feb 12, 2006

There will be a bit of a problem with that motherboard as ECS are known for having poor and very inaccurate CPU temp readouts that fluctuate so you can not be sure where your readings really are at although this might have changed lately.

Download Speedfan from here:

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

Download Prime95 from here:

http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm

Run Prime95 in the blend mode and check your temperatures from speedfan. After Prime95 has been running for ~2 hours you can then post your load temps. If the cpu readout fluctuates very wildly then you can chalk that up the the motherboard. The only way to be certain of your CPU temperature then is via a CPU Thermal Probe.

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pbasil1

· #7 · Feb 12, 2006

agreed with ropey.. you may also wanna read through these FAQ's and it will help you with better understanding OC'ing\\

intel guide & another guide
ram 101 & more ram guide

and with speed fan u can compare the temps with everest to see which temp is which, they will all show up as temp1,temp2,temp3...ect in speeed fan. and i think u only need to run prime 95 for a good 10+ minuites to find your max cpu load temp

any more questions please ask us... good luck

CyberDruid

· #8 · Feb 12, 2006

I prefer MBM (Mother Board Monitor) for monitoring everything on the mobo--load is just a way of describing your system at extreme work--Prime 95 runs intensive calculations that stress your Memory and CPU so that you can determine whether your system is stable--under load. Idle means like when your PC is just sitting there humming not really crunching any data--games put a load on your PC so monitoring temps while gaming is another way to see how hot your system gets--you need to stay below 65 C to preserve your CPU from damage.

Often the idle temp will be 15-18 C lower than the temps experienced when doing intensive processing.

Rasing your FSB simply increase the number of times per second your CPU processess a set of operations--in your case 3.6 billion per second.

More processing requires more electricity which in turn creates more heat which eventually causes errors due to quantum tunnelling (a CPU is built on such a tiny intricate matrix that excess kinetic energy or heat will actually push electrons out of place--electrical charges are how a processor reads and stroes bits of information--everything is either a charge (1) or no charge (0)--so displacing charges causes errors and eventually crashes the CPU--extreme heat will destroy the delicate matrix irreparably--hence my SIG

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Ryanrocks714

Discussion Starter · #9 · Feb 12, 2006

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Originally Posted by Nasgul

to Overclock.net Ryan.

I would suggest not rasing the Vcore any higher and not going any higher than your current 240fsb, mostly because I see it's doing 43C, at idle I would guess?

As far as changing the timings, it would depend, if the modules can handle tighter timings they should work fine. Try 4-3-3-8 @ 2.1v-2.3v.

Other than that, it looks good.

I changes my timings to 4-3-3-8 but i dont know what the 2.1v-2.3v thing is. is that the vcore?

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CyberDruid

· #10 · Feb 12, 2006

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Originally Posted by Ryanrocks714

I changes my timings to 4-3-3-8 but i dont know what the 2.1v-2.3v thing is. is that the vcore?

No it's the VDIMM--the voltage to your RAM--increasing it slightly may yiled some stability at higher OCs, but at he risk of damaging the DIMMS (or RAM) with heat--voltage=heat

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Ryanrocks714

Discussion Starter · #11 · Feb 12, 2006

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Originally Posted by CyberDruid

No it's the VDIMM--the voltage to your RAM--increasing it slightly may yiled some stability at higher OCs, but at he risk of damaging the DIMMS (or RAM) with heat--voltage=heat

Well i already change my timing and i didn't change my Vdimm. do you think i should change it? where would i find that in cmos?

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pbasil1

· #12 · Feb 12, 2006

the VDIMM should be around the setting for upping the FSB, and u might be able to get away with not upping the ram voltage untill u really start hitting higher fsb speeds,or try to run tighter timings....

Ryanrocks714

Discussion Starter · #13 · Feb 12, 2006

I tried to step up my fsb up more since i put my vcore up and the it would boot. so i did the pageup button thingy and it cleared it. there was this setting that said memory volts, so i thought that that would be the same as vdimm but it can only change in .5 increments. does that sound rite? so now im at 3.6 Ghz, idle temp at 41, i i'm too lazy to wait 2 hours for prime95 so when i was playing CS:S the temp was around 56. Is this ok?
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=71188

My stats look ok?

pbasil1

· #14 · Feb 12, 2006

ya the vdimm is usually in .5v incraments, and for load temps u dont have to wait 2 hrs!.... just wait about 5-10 and that will be you load temp....and when u tried to up the fsb more you may have maxed out your ram speed, so maybe try lossening the ram timings a little try again

Ropey

· #15 · Feb 12, 2006

Your temps are just fine. Especially considering you are on stock cooling. One of the main differences with stock cooling vs custom cooling is that there is a point in time when the processor is no longer under the stress that created the heat. The time it takes for the processor to drop to idle temperatures is usually quite a bit quicker than stock coolers. It is another reason to purchase custom cooling.

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Ryanrocks714

Discussion Starter · #16 · Feb 12, 2006

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Originally Posted by pbasil1

ya the vdimm is usually in .5v incraments, and for load temps u dont have to wait 2 hrs!.... just wait about 5-10 and that will be you load temp....and when u tried to up the fsb more you may have maxed out your ram speed, so maybe try lossening the ram timings a little try again

Loosen timings to what? every time i try to change it, it wont boot.

Idle at 39/ load at 51

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pbasil1

· #17 · Feb 12, 2006

the looser the timings(higher numbers), the faster the memory can go,im not very familiar with ddr2 so i dont know if u can go looser, can u go like 4-5-5-12? or something... play around with the timings and up the voltage a little,say 1v, and see if u can boot with higher fsb...

Ryanrocks714

Discussion Starter · #18 · Feb 12, 2006

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Originally Posted by pbasil1

the looser the timings(higher numbers), the faster the memory can go,im not very familiar with ddr2 so i dont know if u can go looser, can u go like 4-5-5-12? or something... play around with the timings and up the voltage a little,say 1v, and see if u can boot with higher fsb...

my timing is at 4-3-3-8. isnt 4-3-3-8 better than 4-5-5-12?

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