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Hey guys. In my quest to build a silent system I've come a crossed a problem. Currently I have the MCP 655 Vario. It has a max output of 317GPH. I have it set to 4 of 5 for the speed settings. So i'm estimating it is pushing out ~225GPH. I have it set to this because to me it is the quietest setting, any lower and it sounds like the pump is being held back. I was curious to know if getting the Laing DDC 3.1 w/ the XSPC top would give me a performance hit?

http://www.petrastechshop.com/laddc1mcin12.html
http://www.petrastechshop.com/xsladdctop.html

Martin's finding state that I would get ~180GPH from this setup. Note I have a low restriction loop. (2 MCR220's, D-Tek GPU block, and Stinger V8 CPU block) It is rated at ~24dba, so I was also wondering if this is any quieter than the MCP655? Thanks!
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Sounds like you need to decrease your flow rate. It seems like your not giving the radiator time to cool the water. Boy!!! I'm gonna have to come up with a patented way to slow the flow periodically as temp changes increase and decrease. But I must confess that I have never owned a water cooled system.
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You'll get about the same performance from the 18W DDC w/top as you will from the D-5 vario on the #5 setting. The higher head the DDC has makes up for its lower GPM. Actually in a loop the 18W DDC will have a little better flow then the D-5 with a multiple block loop.

Noise wise I cant tell much difference between a D-5 or 18W DDC, but I'm not really sound sensitive.

I mount my D-5/DDC pumps with a rubber flat plumbing washer between the pump and case, or whatever I'm mounting it to, that takes a lot of vibration out of it. Might be worth trying before you buy another pump.
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Sounds like you need to decrease your flow rate. It seems like your not giving the radiator time to cool the water. Boy!!! I'm gonna have to come up with a patented way to slow the flow periodically as temp changes increase and decrease. But I must confess that I have never owned a water cooled system.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=203446

higher flow = lower temps

but the flow is limited with the current pumps in the market
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Yeah I don't know why people think that. The higher the flow rate the more turbulence you'll get in the block and rad, thats more heat picked up and dissipated.

The higher the flow rate the more times the coolant goes through the block and rad.

Just keep total pump heat dump under 40-50W and your fine, that is if you have plenty of rad.
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You'll get about the same performance from the 18W DDC w/top as you will from the D-5 vario on the #5 setting. The higher head the DDC has makes up for its lower GPM. Actually in a loop the 18W DDC will have a little better flow then the D-5 with a multiple block loop.

Noise wise I cant tell much difference between a D-5 or 18W DDC, but I'm not really sound sensitive.

I mount my D-5/DDC pumps with a rubber flat plumbing washer between the pump and case, or whatever I'm mounting it to, that takes a lot of vibration out of it. Might be worth trying before you buy another pump.

Ok, so the 18w DDC is actually a bit better than the D-5, in my loop at least. The only thing is that I was looking at the 9w version. The head on the 9w is right at 11ft., the same as the D-5., compared to the 15ft head of the 18w DDC. The 9w DDC is 6dba quieter than the 18w DDC. So if you don't notice much of a difference between the 18w DDC and D-5 they are probably the same. Would the 9w DDC cause my temps to raise?

Oh, btw I do have rubber between my pump and desk.
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The 9W DDC is going to be little weaker. I want to say it would be about like the D-5 on the #4-#5 setting, but I don't know that for sure. It should be in that range anyway.

It should be fine with just a CPU and a core only GPU block, for a quiet loop.

The 9W DDC are pretty good little pumps, those were the thing to have when they first came out.
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The 9W DDC is going to be little weaker. I want to say it would be about like the D-5 on the #4-#5 setting, but I don't know that for sure. It should be in that range anyway.

It should be fine with just a CPU and a core only GPU block, for a quiet loop.

The 9W DDC are pretty good little pumps, those were the thing to have when they first came out.


Good to hear. Considering my D-5 is set to 3 3/4 anyways. It should be exactly the same...just quieter!
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Good to hear. Considering my D-5 is set to 3 3/4 anyways. It should be exactly the same...just quieter!
Yeah it will be close. I hope its quieter for. Just don't completely cover the bottom of your DDC to quiet it down. The bottoms get pretty hot and you need to let a little air circulate under them. Those rubber flat washers work great for DDC's.
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Okay, thanks for the advice.
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