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I'm looking to switch to water cooling for my sig rig. I've read up a bit on watercooling but I'm still very much a newbie. My current air cooling setup is fine at keeping temps down but its quite loud and on hot days it heats up my room, big time.

I was hoping for some suggestions on what parts to get for a complete water cooling setup. The loop is to include the CPU + 1 GPU. I don't need a waterblock for the GTX 260 because I will be upgrading to a Fermi card whenever they are released and watercooling that instead. The loop should also be able to handle a 2nd graphics card if I ever go SLI.

The most important thing though is, I would like the cooling setup to be near silent. I imagine the loudest parts would be the pump and radiator fans. My budget is between $300-$500 but it can be increased if neccesery. My overclocks arn't huge so I dont need the very best, most uber parts, just good value for money and quiet parts.

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CPU Water Block: EK-Supreme LT Acetal+Nickel $62

Radiator: XSPC RX360 $115

Pump: EK-DCP 2.2 $59

Reservoir: EK-Bay Spin Reservoir Acetal $60

Fans: Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm Fan 1150rpm x3 $29 x3 = $87

Tubing: Tygon R-3603 Laboratory Tubing (Clear 3/8 5/8 1/8) x3 (3m total) $12.95 x3 = $38.85

Coolant: Distilled Water + PrimoChill Liquid Utopia-3ml, Clear + Red Food Coloring $0 + $5.95 + $0 = $5.95

Compression Fittings: Bitspower G1/4 Black Sparkle Compression Fitting CC3 x10 $7.50 x10 = $75

T Block + Stop Cap: T Block + Stop Fitting $3.95 + $3.25 = $7.20

GPU Water Block: Waiting for Nvidia to release Fermi then getting one of those + a full cover water block to go with it.

AUS $510.00 + shipping (without GPU blocks)
 

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Get a radiator with 8-10 Fins per Inch like XSPC RX series, Thermochill PA 120.3 or 120.4, or 140.3, or Swiftech MCR 320. All those only need low-medium speed fans.
 

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Mount the rad outside your window. Put a lil anti freeze in it and bingo...Silent. You will have to engineer running tubing to it. Crack the window and cut a sheet of plywood with holes for tubing. Put a little insulation to fill any air gaps. I use quick connectors on my tubing.
 

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The loop is to include the CPU + 1 GPU. I don't need a waterblock for the GTX 260 because I will be upgrading to a Fermi card whenever they are released and watercooling that instead. The loop should also be able to handle a 2nd graphics card if I ever go SLI.

The most important thing though is, I would like the cooling setup to be near silent. I imagine the loudest parts would be the pump and radiator fans. My budget is between $300-$500 but it can be increased if neccesery. My overclocks arn't huge so I dont need the very best, most uber parts, just good value for money and quiet parts.
Gotcha. Here's what I can suggest for those requirements;

Heatkiller 3.0 LT

XSPC RX360

3x Zalman ZM-F3s, using the included 7v wires

Any rebrand of the Jingway 600 (Danger Den CPX-1 and EK DCP 2.2 as examples), or even the Eheim 1046 (can be bought as the Aquastream XT if you want to control it with software); both of these are VERY quiet and will have enough power for a loop like you're after; however for the Eheim you do need a G1/4" adapter set, which Sidewinder carries

Masterkleer 7/16" ID / 5/8" OD clear tubing

Bitspower barbs/compression fittings (must match ID and OD for compression fittings)

For the video card blocks... well, I'll leave it to you if you want to try a full-coverage block like from EK or Watercool (all-in-one solution, but only works for a specific card or range of cards), or a universal like one from Swiftech (works with all GPUs but does not cover the MOSFETs or RAM chips).
 

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Thanks for all the replys. Heres what I've got:

CPU Water Block: EK-Supreme LT Acetal+Nickel

Radiator: EK-CoolStream RAD XT (360)

Pump: EK-DCP 2.2 (12V DC Pump)

Reservoir: EK-Reservoir Combo DCP 2.2

Fans: Zalman ZM-F3 120mm Silent LED Fan Red

Tubing: Swiftech Tubing 7/16" x 5/8" x 10ft

Coolant: Swiftech HydrX Coolant

Barbs/Fittings: ???

There was a cheaper Swiftech rad but I thought I may aswell go all EK


The thing that has me most confused at this point are fittings/barbs. Dont know how many or which types to get. Couldnt find any fittings with the same ID/OD as the tubing.

Also, Im not sure if the pump is enough for a loop with a CPU and 2 GPU blocks on it. Can anyone confirm its fine?

Im still very much open to more suggestions.

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Coolant: Swiftech HydrX Coolant
Use distilled water with a biocide (PT Nuke or a silver coil) instead. The coloring in fluid like that tends to separate and clog the parts over time.

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Barbs/Fittings: ???
Just get whatever you like and get tubing that matches the dimensions of the barbs/fittings. Get 2 barbs/fittings for each part of the loop, and 2 extra for if you get another graphics card.

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There was a cheaper Swiftech rad but I thought I may aswell go all EK

They're nearly on par with each other, so that's always good.

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Also, Im not sure if the pump is enough for a loop with a CPU and 2 GPU blocks on it. Can anyone confirm its fine?
Yes, it's fine, and it'll be very quiet.
 

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Get the high flow bitspowers.
You don't need to clamp it, since the fit will be tight.
You need 6(or 7) barbs: 2 for CPU block, 2 for res (or 3 if you plan to make a T-line/drain), 2 for rad. Pick up 2 more for each GPU block you plan to add.
The rad and I think res should come with barbs, but it's better to use the high flow barbs since it forms a tighter fit with the tubing.

I would opt for the Swiftech rad if it's cheaper, since performance is roughly the same. Plus as you mentioned you aren't going for heavy overclocks.

Again, like the above poster, use distilled water and a biocide instead of a mixture.
 

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Thanks for the help, +rep to you both.
Think I'll go with the cheaper Swiftech rad and save a few dollars.
Distilled water is easy enough to get but I dont know where to get PT Nuke or a KillCoil here in Aus. Are there any other biocides that you know of that i can search for or will something similar from a pool/pond shop do?
 

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Are there any other biocides that you know of that i can search for or will something similar from a pool/pond shop do?

Just ask any shop of that sort that can ship to you if they carry copper sulfate-based biocides. I'm sure you'll find something. Usage of such is one drop per litre if you do find any.
 

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OK, last 2 questions.

If I get a bunch of these barbs: Swiftech 3/8 Inch Chrome Plated Barbs,
will this tubing: Feser Tube - UV Red, 3/8" work fine?

PC Case Gear only has these and the Tygon's are too expensive and the Swiftechs wouldnt fit properly over the 3/8" barbs right?

And finally, will I need any clamps or ties with these barbs + tubing? I'm thinking yes.

Yes to both questions.
 

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Chunky Chimp, I cant thank you enough. You have been so quick to reply and very helpful. +rep
 

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Final List:

CPU Water Block: EK-Supreme LT Acetal+Nickel

Radiator: Swiftech MCR320-QP

Pump: EK-DCP 2.2

Reservoir: EK-Reservoir Combo DCP 2.2

Fans: Zalman ZM-F3 120mm Silent LED Fan Red x3

Tubing: DD Tube - UV Red, 3/8", 5/8", 1/8" x4 (4m total)

Coolant: Distilled Water + Some copper sulfate-based biocide from a pool place

Compression Fittings: Bitspower G1/4 Black Sparkle Compression Fitting CC3 x7

GPU Water Block: Waiting for Nvidia to release Fermi then getting one of those + a full cover water block to go with it.

Am I missing anything?
Do I need a backplate for the CPU water block?
Will I need an anti-corrosive additive since I'm mixing metals?
 

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First off for the fans, if you want a super silent system, the Scythe Gentle Typhoons are much quieter than the Zalman's (I have both of them and they perform identical). These would be the ones you want:
http://www.jab-tech.com/Scythe-Gentl...m-pr-4501.html
That site you're using only has the slower ones though:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...oducts_id=8749

Also you only have to worry about mixing metals if there's any aluminum in the loop. Mixing copper, brass, silver, nickel is fine.
 

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First off for the fans, if you want a super silent system, the Scythe Gentle Typhoons are much quieter than the Zalman's (I have both of them and they perform identical). These would be the ones you want:
http://www.jab-tech.com/Scythe-Gentl...m-pr-4501.html
That site you're using only has the slower ones though:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...oducts_id=8749

Interesting, thanks for letting me know.

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Also you only have to worry about mixing metals if there's any aluminum in the loop. Mixing copper, brass, silver, nickel is fine.

Cheers for clarifying that for me.

Also, I edited my post above. Changed tubing and switched to compression fittings so I dont have to use 'ugly' clamps
 

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Everything on your list looks good. You don't have any TIM (thermal interface material) on your list though, it's the gooey stuff you put in between the water block and processor if you didn't know
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Some good ones are:
Arctic Cooling MX-3 4g
OCZ Freeze 3g
Shin-Etsu X23-7783D 1g

Notice though that the Shin-Etsu is pretty expensive especially since you only get 1 gram of it, but it's the top performer of the 3. Here's a review, just scroll down to the charts. I believe OCZ Freeze performs almost as good as MX-3, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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Also if you get the MX-3 or OCZ, you should have enough left over for the VGA block.
 
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