Awesome, thanks for the measurement!!!Originally Posted by 7nationarmy
I'd suggest getting a different motherboard as the Gigabyte B350 itx's layout is pretty bad. The SATA, USB and 24-pin power sockets are on the exhaust vent side of the SG13 when installed. This will make thermals worse, especially when you are using an air cooler. The Cryorig C7 isn't particular powerful anyway.
600W is also way overkill for your build. A Corsair SF450 will do nicely (although it does not come with SFX-ATX bracket).
Also, I'd still recommend getting a closed loop water cooler/AIO for SG13. You will get better temps and thus noise. You can even use a 140mm one since you are using a very short GPU. Companies ship prebuilts PCs with AIO everyday, so I don't see why air transport will be a problem.
After reading all the reviews I came to the conclusion that the best board for the money is the ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX, 8 phase power for the CPU and overclocks good. The ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX is great as well, but there really isnt much difference other than the chipset and I have no idea what difference that makes.Originally Posted by carlskie86
need some expert advice building with this case..
i already have sg13b
gtx 1080 FE
planning to get ryzen5 1600x
what board, cpu cooler, psu should i get?
i was eyeing on gigabyte ab350n wifi but someone said it was a bad board for this case on previous post
I was saying the ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX has an 8 phase power design, which is a little bit better than the other brand boards, it also seems to overclock well.Originally Posted by carlskie86
thank you so much for all the inputs.. upon checking on the corsair website the ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming-ITX/ac AM4 only needs an AM4 bracket for h75 AIO but the h60 is compatible with the existing AMD bracket out of the box. should i option out for an h60?
thanks so what board should i get? ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX 8 phase? instead of the regular ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX?
I'm sure it can be taken apart, looking at the front panel it is indeed 2 separate pieces, The frame is separate from the aesthetic "brushed" front panel. It's most likely glued together.Originally Posted by Signaturisti
Can the front panel in B-Q (solid frontpanel) version be taken apart somehow? I'd like to reuse the little "tabs" through which the front panel is screwed into the case and maybe also the ones on top, because that way I could attach a new frontpanel more easily. It would be enough if the "frame" could be taken off... or do I just have to dremel it off? I don't mind dremeling, but always better to ask beforehand if it's easily taken apart. I do have a heatgun if that's needed.
I am planning to do a Coffee Lake (probably i3-8100) in this case. I will not be needing a graphics card, and plan to get by with just an M.2 stick for storage (so no drive tray needed).
Since I will not be needing much wattage, I am considering a PicoPSU. With the PSU area opened up, I am wondering if I can fit a Cryorig H7. Has anyone done it?
Silverstone states a 61mm CPU cooler max height. And an ATX PSU is 86mm. Together, that comes out to 147mm.
A Cryorig H7 is 145mm, which on paper sounds like it would fit. If anyone has done this and can confirm, I would really appreciate it!
I mean, even if it's locked, the H7 will keep it cooler and will probably not have to spin the fan as fast.
Thanks! Really glad it will work.
I want to make this a really quiet case. I am going to use a 140mm case fan and wanted to also use the Cryorig so I can keep things cool without spinning the fans too much.
That is true, but I don't know whether it's running at 120c or 100c because they'll be both too hot. But at least 100c will give some headroom
I will soon join the SG13 club and I intend to mount a SFX PSU in front, giving extra space to mount taller CPU cooler (my Noctua D9L). I wonder what could be the best setup for an airflow to provide sufficient cooling to my CPU (a 65W Ryzen 2400G) and my GPU (RX580 Nitro+). I don't plan to make irreversible mods, but have access to 3D printer to print any housing or mount as I wish. Here's some of my thoughts:
What will be my best choice? Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
- Front as exhaust. Mount a fan on top of motherboard. Block off original PSU cutout. The issue with this is the passage to exhaust will pass through the PSU, which will take up at least 100x125 of area. Adding in cables and the fact that the PSU will also have air flow, there may too many resistances to push air that way. Given there's only 90mm in depth to work with (and 64mm of them will be taken up by the PSU, leaving only 26mm), a slim fan of 15mm or lesser will be necessary. Will such fan, e.g. a Prolimatech Ultra Sleek Vortex 12, be enough to suck hot air away? Of course, front dust filter will be taken away.
- Front as intake, top as intake, motherboard side as exhaust. Seems like a 92mm fan could fit on the right side. Again, front intake will suffer as it needs to push air through cables and the PSU. Will this cause too much positive pressure and affect the air intake from the GPU side?
- Front as intake, top as exhaust, motherboard side as another intake (?). I feel that a C-type cooler will work better this way, with the fan blowing from bottom to top. A top exhaust should ventilate pretty well for the GPU, but there won't be much fresh air for the PSU.
- Overhang the PSU in front (necessary since it's 100mm deep) and mount two 80mm fans below it to draw air from the front. Overhanging the PSU will clash with a huge C-type cooler, e.g. the Noctua C14S or bequiet Dark Rock TF. It will fit my current D9L, but I have always liked to have a C-type cooler, especially when I aim to upgrade to a 95W Ryzen in the future.
- Side 92mm intake for push-pull of my D9L (need to rotate it by 90 degree). Front intake dedicated for PSU. Top exhaust to suck hot air out.
My i/o front panel is damaged. Is not easy to find the original one from Silvestone where I live.
Would this I/O fit into SG13?
I'm considering this case, but I'm not sure if some of the components I have are really appropriate.
CPU Cooler: Thermalright AXP-200 Muscle (73 mm)
GPU: MSI GTX 960 (open-air, 267 mm)
I have an SFX PSU, so the AXP-200 *might* fit, but I question how effective it will be in such a tight space. Also, the GPU will probably fit, but it's open-air.
What I would like is a case that is less than 300 mm in height, less than 20 L in volume, and good thermally. Considering the components I have, is the SG13 a good fit, or are there cases that will give much cooler temps given the constraints? I've looked at the Fractal Design Core 500 and Cougar QBX, but I'm not sure how much better they would be for temps. Thoughts?
It really depends on what you are willing to do mod wise. I have 3d printed parts on my build, but i could have done my mods with some paper and off the shelf stuff.That's what I was afraid of. I don't have access to a 3D printer, so I think I'll have to pass with this mod.The best is if you have access to a 3D printer/laser cutter/CNC machine that can build an adapter that holds your PSU while being secured to either the front fan holes or bottom SSD holes.
I was considering the SG08 as well, but it sounds like it's not a great case. That's a shame, because the size is great.
@Max78 Your BIG PSU seems to really take up space and made you have to do a bunch of mods to make things more workable, why didn't you think about investing in a smaller SFX PSU and simply reverse the plug orientation and mount it like 4cm off the bottom. Then you could have routed the plug out the back and kept all the other openings the same. Also since you might be into Vega theres a Sapphire Pulse Vega 56 card which is quite small, maybe it would help a bit with the thermals?