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Got an sg 13-q with ryzen 5 3600,geforce 2060, aerocool 600w 80+, silverstone pf120 aio. No matter how I arrange the cables it gets over 85 degrees during stress tests with pbo enabled. Also temp spikes a lot during browsing and fan noise change constantly. Currently I decided to undervolt at 1.185 at 3.9 mhz and the temps are much stable. Do you have any other suggestions?
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Being that you have the Q version your front cover is a solid piece and has little to no airflow. Modify or make a new front cover that actually has vents in it.
I tried to buy a mesh cover separately but couldn't find any seller in my country sadly. I wonder if the aio is working probably. I thought it would handle temperatures much better than stock cooler but doesn't make wonders without proper venting I guess.
 

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Flip your AIO so both hoses are to the top. Sometimes air can get trapped in the rad and cause it to trickle to the CPU.

My bet is your AIO is just fine. However you can remove the front cover and run it like that for a bit to see what temperatures you get.
Flipping is not possible due to dimensions. I shaked and turned the case gently to get air bubbles to the top just in case. I saw many people saying they could get low temps like low 70's with similar setup but either they are not realistic or my cpu likes to work really hot.
 

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Hi devoker
I have a gtx 1080 gigabyte g1 with dimensions Height: 4.5" / 114 mm Length: 11" / 280 mm Width: Dual-Slot
That is only 285-280mm = 5 shorter than your gpu you think mine will fit in the sg13 if i remove a bit of the plastic inside frontpanel?
Gpu is fine, the radiator is not square though. I am not sure but if I flip the sides will collide with case probably.
I am thinking about drilling holes or slots to the front panel to increase ventilation.
 

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Got an sg 13-q with ryzen 5 3600,geforce 2060, aerocool 600w 80+, silverstone pf120 aio. No matter how I arrange the cables it gets over 85 degrees during stress tests with pbo enabled. Also temp spikes a lot during browsing and fan noise change constantly. Currently I decided to undervolt at 1.185 at 3.9 mhz and the temps are much stable. Do you have any other suggestions?
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Got another question. AIO hoses are stiff and pushing and bending the gpu a little. Will it cause any problems to the gpu in the long term?
 

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It might, or it may be fine, hard to tell.

Part of your hose routing and airflow issue is the full sized PSU with non modular cables. Consider getting a Silverstone 650W SFX with a PP08 adapter plate.
I would if I could but PP08 is not sold here. I have to pay more than twice the price with tax customs and shipping. Also current psu will be useless and I have to buy a new PSU. Minimum wage is around 300 USD here (Turkey) so figure the economy and how expensive are the prices :)
 

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You could just make an adapter, it is just flat metal with holes in it.

However you are correct about the PSU, the SFX ones are expensive and you would not make much selling your old one.
I haven't been keeping up with pc tech for a long while, I realized the importance of the airflow with my current setup. If I knew before buying I would definitely get a modular sfx. Hell I would even buy now but if I spend anything else on this pc my wife will probably kill me :)
 

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Hey, so I installed a low profile heatsink for my P1 under the motherboard. It just about fits - while putting back the mobo I wasn't able to screw in the top left standoff screw, dunno if it's just my fault or the heatsink being a bit too thick. GPU fits no problem right now, hopefully the Ventus 2x will not give any issues either.

The improvement in temps is honestly amazing. Installing SotTR temps peaked at 61C, without it I'd be seeing 85C+. Installation was annoying because I basically had to take out everything to get to the SSD but it's 100% worth it. Amazon link for the heatsink - mine isn't this one exactly but looks to be the same.
Do you know the distance between motherboard and the case? My ssd is also on the back and I want to put thermal pad between ssd and the case. Or do I need to put a heatsink between the ssd's heatsink and the case and put thermal pads between those?
 

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The standoff height is 10mm (I remember seeing this number because I searched for it too, but I can't find it now). I doubt 10mm worth of thermal pads would be effective, but it definitely would be really cool if it worked. If your ssd already has a heatsink then there's no point of putting pads between it and the case - the heatsink is already doing its work.
It has a heatsink but during copying etc. temperature goes above 85 degrees. As there is no air circaltion down the board heatsink can't spread the heat effectively. I thought if I can put a thermal pad it may help reduce the temperatures.
 

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Still rocking this case since 2015.

Replaced the stock grill with custom acrylic grill.

Using aio in pull configuration. Exhausting hot air to the front of the case

Greatly improved the thermals for both cpu and gpu since hot air can easily escape the larger holes of the custom grill
Do you have a big gpu? What is your psu doing intake or exhaust?
I also want to try pull exhaust with open front case but I am not sure it will be helpful when gpu is under load.
 

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The best options are going to be:
1) drill a batch of holes in the case bottom near the drive

OR

2) cut a large hole and mount a slim fan under the case making sure it is slimmer than the feet so it actually can get air.

OR

3) put a large slab of aluminium or copper (both conduct heat well) between the drive and case bottom and then connect both the case bottom and the drive to the slab with thermal paste or pads..
SSD width is around 3.8 mm and I think there should be 1-2 mm clearance between motherboard and ssd. I want to make sure the height before getting a metal plate but it is a pain to disassemble everything. I thought maye putting 2x3mm thermal pad might solve it. Actually thermals are not so bad during gaming. I have seen 50 degrees max but heavy copy paste operations making me wonder.
 

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Hi All,

Sorry if someone already asked about this.
I'm using an atx psu (be quiet u9 400w to be exact) on my sg13.
if i want to replace my cpu with i7 4790, can someone advise what air cpu cooler brands that can handle 4970 heat?
right now my setup is cryorig c7 paired with i5 4460. if it's possible i want to keep my psu in atx size,
and also i will not reconsider to use liquid cooler, so plz don't bother to mention it :)

thanks!!
I also have an atx psu and even with an aio I think the system is choking for air when gpu is underload. And any air cooler will be too close to psu which will decrease the efficiency as the psu will restrict airflow. 1 possible option would be using the cpu fan reverted with psu exhausting at the same time though. Still I started to believe more and more if you are gonna put a gpu in this case, psu should be selected as sfx.
 

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I tried but didn't seem to get the best grip and eventually, since it was the very final piece, I just wanted to get it done :p
Yeah, the H80icables are pushing up towards the case top no matter what, but cooling seems really good. I also saw in Techguru's video that double fans for radiator didn't do much so just went with the one for pulling air through the back, the side fan I think really helps not only with temps for overall case, but def for keeping PSU a few degrees cooler, it is really heating up.
I also watched techguru's video but he only considered cpu temps. I think the second fan might increase the airflow and help with gpu and psu heating. It probably didn't affect cpu temps because the radiator was the bottleneck. My psu fan is going crazy when gpu is on 100% (atx psu so the effective free volume is quite lower), and maybe adding a second fan might help it. Gonna try it as soon as I could find a bargain which is very hard here sadly.
 

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I think I found out why I have so high gpu temperatures. I tried benchmarking with the top panel removed and yet it has more than 73 degrees. I think the reason is when gpu fans blowing air some of the hot air goes down and this hot air rises and fans blow it again. Some of the hot air which should be exhausted recirculates inside heatsink and the case.
I can feel the hot air going through the heatsink when I put my hand in front of the fans and bottom side of the case gpu side is very hot.
Has anyone tried blocking bottom of the heatsink so that the hot air is forced to up and back?
Would it help thermals or choke the system and make it worse?
 

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The case is not really designed for a HSF so you need to work on airflow if you go that way.

Basically you seem to be describing the equivalent of one of those ducted systems that direct the hot air from the CPU out. Whilst it may work, be aware that the VRMs and other motherboard components will still need some airflow or the MB will overheat.
Fine work.

With regard to the RHS exhaust fan, it is unlikely a 25 mm fan of any diameter will work with an HSF, you may need to look at slimmer fans or mount the fan externally on the outside of the case. TBH even a 15 mm thick fan can cause issues with some motherboards, a 12mm is a safer bet.

As far as the LHS goes you can mount a couple of 60 x 15 mm fans above the graphics card. THis is not entirely necessary with your blower style card but makes a massive difference with more traditional GPUs that dump warm air into the case:

Actually this solution might be a lot better. I will probably replace my atx psu with sfx and after that I will start looking for some 60 mm fans. Only problem is it will be impossible to find a silent quality 60 mm fan her, the ones I could find probably be oem crappy fans which will make a lot of noise. Hope they will be silent under low-mid rpm settings.
 

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I used these:

They look good but I can't find them here anywhere. Actual no local shop selling any 50x1.5 or 60x1.5 fans. Maybe that website might ship here though I don't have high hopes. Not many eu websites ship Turkey. And if they ship I will probably have to pay big amount of custom tax and vat. Turkey is not a good country to be its citizen :(
 

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I used these:

That webiste only ships with no tracking. 90% chance it will be lost in customs here.
Lol, I only found them on amazon (shipping to Turkey), and with customs and shipping, wait for it
It costs 23$/piece. And it takes 2-3 weeks to deliver. The price of of a big mac is 1.8 dollars here to compare.
 
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