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According to the preliminary (NDA) and pulled down tests, Skylake is good for syntetic benches (109% over i7 4790K):
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...but it sadly and surprisingly lose (4 tp 6%) in gaming tests to i7 4790K:
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Sure, Anandtech is trying to cover this debacle, using an i7 4770K to unfair comparsion and ComputerBase tweaked the results to make Skylake look good (1% faster that i7 4790K) by throving syntetic benches in the mix, but gaming tests show that i7 4790K wins.

Only in Total War: Attila Skylake with GTX 980 Ti combination wins slightly faster result.

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At least the TDP get from 95W lovered to 91W (only marketing change?). OTOH the asking price will be 350$ for i7 6700K and i5 6600K will be for 243$.

http://wccftech.com/intel-unleashes-14nm-skylake-k-core-i7-6700k-core-i5-6600k-processors-91w-z170-platform-support/
http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-cpu-review-processor-gaming-performance/
http://www.computerbase.de/2015-08/intel-core-i5-6600k-i7-6700k-test-benchmark-skylake/
 

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Who cares if it does not beat the 4790k.
It is better too see how it really does against Ivy and Sandy. Those are better to see if an upgrade is better.
Anything before Sandy would be a an upgrade.
 

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5820k and x99 the way to go for upgrades.
wont do 5ghz with skylake, fail IMO.
 

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Your site is testing incorrectly.

Finally, x264 encoding performance where you see 4.5ghz i5 6600k match a 9590 @5ghz
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^This is often tested wrongly, because reviewers use a 5 year old encoder version with a popular benchmark that is terrible and doesn't show performance improvements that newer CPU's have from avx2 etc. This test is accurate.

and IPC gains of 11.9% over Haswell, 37.7% over sandy bridge

can we stop pretending that skylake is a disappointment? It's exactly what i expected plus a little more (was erring on the cynical side). There's no need for this drama on every new CPU release when tock to tock it's not all -that- bad, especially considering that you'll probably get ~5% more from clocking 200mhz higher than Haswell (especially non-DC)

Sure, it should be 6 core. It could be faster - but it's here and it's NOT slower than a 4790k.
 

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Your site is testing incorrectly.
Yeah, because clocking a Sandy Bridge lower than anything else is doing things right.

I agree that Skylake is strictly a common tock, neither good or bad but that polish site is a joke.
 

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Yeah, because clocking a Sandy Bridge lower than anything else is doing things right.
They have several pages of tests with SB/HW/SL at the same clocks. In that case i'm not sure why no 4.7ghz sandy bridge on those gaming bench pics but i never even looked at that because 4.7ghz Haswell and Skylake are both there.

A joke why? It's the best skylake review out there. It's like 30 pages of stuff that's way more accurate than what most of the reviewers are posting. Actual non-GPU-bound tests, straight clock for clock IPC comparisons at 3ghz and 4.5ghz, etc.
 

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Those tests are strange. Stock skylake witcher 3 is 113fps, while ovetclocked to 4,7 is... 114fps.
Because it's GPU bound so useless as a test between a 4790k and 6700k
 

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Because it's GPU bound so useless as a test between a 4790k and 6700k
Then why Crysis benches show the same? Welcome to the jungle is extremely CPU bound, and yet its just 1fps gain (which is in the margin of error).
 

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Then why Crysis benches show the same? Welcome to the jungle is extremely CPU bound, and yet its just 1fps gain (which is in the margin of error).
Aparantly not so much if these CPU's can do ~100fps on it. Not enough gap CPU to CPU, probably waiting for the GPU some still

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0.6fps gain from 4.4% increase in frequency on same CPU. That doesn't scream "CPU limited", though there is some scaling
 

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A joke why?
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Those polish guys are famous for the crap inaccurate info they toss out.
This. I'd add misleading like the 2600K clocked that low but whatever.
 

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Source on inaccurate info from them? Seems fine to me. Matches some other reviews too but they have it all in one nice place complete with pages dedicated to clock for clock comparisons.
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I'd add misleading like the 2600K clocked that low but whatever.
All of those pics have sandy, haswell and skylake at 4.5ghz. They just only have skylake and haswell at 4.7
 

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I've even heard on some places that AMD refuses to work with them completely. I am not 100% sure this is accurate info as i've heard it on a forum, but i've seen some extremely questionable "benchmarks" where gtx 960 stomps R9 280X in 1080p/1440p.
 

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All of those pics have sandy, haswell and skylake at 4.5ghz. They just only have skylake and haswell at 4.7
Because putting a legendary clocker like the 2600K at a lower frequency is a felony to boot and being fair would have shown it at a higher clock.

Aside from that you're going to be GPU bound 99.9% of the time in actual gaming.
 

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Aside from that you're going to be GPU bound 99.9% of the time in actual gaming.
I'm actually CPU bound most of the time trying to maintain framerates in the 100-200fps region. Plus all of the RTS, MMO games out there plus a few others like heroes of the storm, kerbal space program etc are very heavy hitters and usually drop very low with lots of stuff going on.

No sense complaining about lack of performance improvements from a CPU upgrade if you're playing a game + resolution + settings combo that your GPU will limit you on, just upgrade your GPU instead if that's all you play.

If the site has bad numbers, fair enough. There's plenty of others showing the ~7-13% IPC improvements, it seems to clock better than haswell by a notable margin and the x264 numbers i know are correct.
 

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Asus said that 4.7ghz with 1.32v was the best CPU they have seen(@hardocp), add to this the fact that these are all ES processors which are always far better overclockers then retail versions, my conclusion is that retail Skylakes you'll be happy if you reach 4.6ghz. Haswell ES sent to media went 5.0ghz easy.
 

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This was discussed already in the big Skylake review thread. The information is inaccurate since Skylake is apparently limited by the 2133 MHz DDR4 reviewers, including Anandtech, used. Also potentially immature software on earlier reviews according to the Tweaktown review's author.

The Polish site Cyro is referencing above (showing the 6700K being superior across many games) used higher-clocked 2666 MHz DDR4. Tweaktown did too to also get superior results with the 6700K:

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HardOCP also verified memory speed's impact:

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HardOCP also verified memory speed's impact:
Just remember:
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As always, these benchmarks in no way represent real-world gameplay. These are all run at very low resolutions to try our best to remove the video card as a bottleneck. I will not hesitate to say that anyone spouting these types of framerate measurements as a true gameplay measuring tool in today's climate is not servicing your needs or telling you the real truth.
 
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