[Silicon Lottery]

Stay tuned for information on Skylake-X binning here. We're looking forward to seeing what Skylake-X has to offer.

We do not have plans to bin Kaby Lake-X processors at this time, let us know if that's something you would like to see!

Skylake-X will not be soldered, so we will be offering delidding for these processors.

 

[nyxagamemnon]

Would the 10-18 Range hit 5ghz? That's the question to answer

I wonder at what core count will we see a sharp drop off in clock speeds? 14? 16?

If 10 can boost to 4.5 and you guys can hit 5Ghz with it and same with 12 and the rest go down then I'd venture those would sell out more.

My prediction is the CPU's that do 5Ghz are the winners.

And the no solder wow Intel is really really just no words...

 

[czin125]

18C is 4.5x more than the 7700K and that thing can use up to 180w+ at 5ghz? If you could clock them to 5ghz, you'd be close to 700w+. The radiator sizes you'd be using would be kinda massive to keep that cool, right?

 

[fat4l]

What made your mind not to offer Kabylabe-x ?

 

[Silicon Lottery]

Quote:

Originally Posted by fat4l

What made your mind not to offer Kabylabe-x ?

We already offer Kaby Lake processors so it's kind of redundant, and we're only a few months away from Coffee Lake.

 

[MunneY]

I'm in dude. Thanks for the link.

 

[Silicon Lottery]

I'm considering delidding all of these CPUs right off the bat by default, and then binning them after delidding. Only a very small amount of Kaby Lake processors we sell are purchased without delidding as it is. These higher core count processors are going to be fireballs when overclocked.

 

[MunneY]

I agree with delidding as long as you test a couple to make sure its completely necessary (I know it will be).

 

[adversary]

why not try Kaby Lake-X binning? because, maybe there will be some worthy difference in overclocking potential compared to 7700K, who knows. why it is stated as 112W TDP than?

about deliding and soldering.. if we do not care for warranty, maybe it is better to have it delided with liquid metal, as I heard it net better temperatures than soldering.

 

[SuperZan]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silicon Lottery

I'm considering delidding all of these CPUs right off the bat by default, and then binning them after delidding. Only a very small amount of Kaby Lake processors we sell are purchased without delidding as it is. These higher core count processors are going to be fireballs when overclocked.

Solid. I'm thinking that'll be an absolute necessity to get at the potential of these guys, given that they're not soldered. Performance should be very good, though.

 

[bl4ckdot]

I'm most probably going to get one (90% chance

). Likely a 7900X or 7820X dellided. Will be an international order from France

 

[BenchZowner]

I'd say the 8c, 10c and 12c will be the most interesting and sellable parts.

 

[Simkin]

HEDT and not soldered.!?! What are they doing?

 

[bob(nz)]

Sign me up for some 12 core goodness!! Would probably try 10 core as well....

 

[unityole]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silicon Lottery

Stay tuned for information on Skylake-X binning here. We're looking forward to seeing what Skylake-X has to offer.

We do not have plans to bin Kaby Lake-X processors at this time, let us know if that's something you would like to see!

Skylake-X will not be soldered, so we will be offering delidding for these processors.

my understanding of liquid tim gets worse over time due to cooling off and heating up repeatedly, constant expansion/contraction creates cracks so isn't it better to use something like ICDiamond rather than liquid cool lab tim?

 

[Silicon Lottery]

Quote:

Originally Posted by unityole

my understanding of liquid tim gets worse over time due to cooling off and heating up repeatedly, constant expansion/contraction creates cracks so isn't it better to use something like ICDiamond rather than liquid cool lab tim?

No.

We've been selling delidded CPUs with CLU for years now, and none of our customers have mentioned any problems or temperature changes over time.

 

[kdotdasg]

12 core 24 threads!!! Ordering soon as available with delivery to the land down under!

Just to confirm I've never ordered a delidded processor, so you delid then glue the IHS back on for use right?

.

 

[Dyson Poindexter]

Quote:

Originally Posted by czin125

18C is 4.5x more than the 7700K and that thing can use up to 180w+ at 5ghz? If you could clock them to 5ghz, you'd be close to 700w+. The radiator sizes you'd be using would be kinda massive to keep that cool, right?

This is actually a great point.

Power consumption will scale linearly with core count for a given clock speed*voltage. If a 4 core, 5GHz CPU uses 150W, a CPU with 4.5 times the cores will use 675W. It just has to. In the enterprise, this is solved with lower clocks and voltages.

 

[Kommanche]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyson Poindexter

This is actually a great point.

Power consumption will scale linearly with core count for a given clock speed*voltage. If a 4 core, 5GHz CPU uses 150W, a CPU with 4.5 times the cores will use 675W. It just has to. In the enterprise, this is solved with lower clocks and voltages.

Agreed, TDP is going to be a real challenge with these chips. Delidding is a must.

 

[czin125]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyson Poindexter

This is actually a great point.

Power consumption will scale linearly with core count for a given clock speed*voltage. If a 4 core, 5GHz CPU uses 150W, a CPU with 4.5 times the cores will use 675W. It just has to. In the enterprise, this is solved with lower clocks and voltages.

It's voltage^2 and frequency is linear.

There's a few companies that do server stuff like Ebullient http://imgur.com/hbDIlVo