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Today Microsoft Defender ATP for Linux was made available for public preview, and a version for iOS (for iPhone and iPad) and Android were announced. The Android and iOS versions of Microsoft Defender ATP will be released later this year. Today’s preview of the Linux version was first shown at Ignite 2019 running on Ubuntu.
Source: https://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-defender-atp-anti-virus-on-ios-and-android-soon-linux-preview-now-20610355/



There are a lot of articles about this, but this one had a headline that was the most on the nose. For those interested in more detail, here is the official blog post from Microsoft: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2020/02/20/delivering-on-the-promise-of-security-ai-to-help-defenders-protect-todays-hybrid-environments/

Here is a quote directly from the Microsoft blog post:
Microsoft Threat Protection, generally available today, does the heavy lifting for defenders by proactively hunting across users, email, applications and endpoints – including Mac and Linux. It brings together alerts and takes action using AI and automation. Microsoft Threat Protection breaks down security silos so security professionals can automatically detect, investigate and stop coordinated multi-point attacks. It weeds out the unimportant and amplifies signals that might have been missed, freeing defenders to work on the incidents that need their attention. With identity protection as a core component, it is the only solution of its type that is designed for Zero Trust. More details on the Microsoft Threat Protection announcement can be found on the Microsoft Security Blog.

It also builds upon solutions recognized as leaders in their categories, like Microsoft Defender Advanced Threat Protection (ATP) for endpoint security. Microsoft Defender ATP offers preventive protection, post-breach detection and automated investigation and response for Windows and macOS. Today we’re announcing support for Linux and plans for iOS and Android as well.
This is definitely not a move I would have predicted. Makes sense when you think about it though, they probably already identify a lot of threats on other platforms so they might as well try and monetize that.
 

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but does defender have any sort of central management?

ghuhuhuhuhuhuh this double type bug is driving me insane, and is somehow affecting ALL of my computers(work and personal). Only commonality is my google account.
 

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While Defender is pretty much useless I am wondering whether this is yet another step towards Windows becoming a Linux distro.
 

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Linux already has ClamAV, which is also available for Windows. Microsoft is bringing it's Windows 10 data mining to other OS's.
 

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Linux already has ClamAV, which is also available for Windows. Microsoft is bringing it's Windows 10 data mining to other OS's.

Suspect it's more to do with the US Government's need to monitor and copy all data from every user on Planet Earth.

Linux has to fall in line like with every other PC Operating System. Except those in Russia and China, which are completely safe from the US spy machine.
 

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Suspect it's more to do with the US Government's need to monitor and copy all data from every user on Planet Earth.

Linux has to fall in line like with every other PC Operating System. Except those in Russia and China, which are completely safe from the US spy machine.
I'd assume you're kidding. Nothing is safe.
 

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Windows defender is ms's foraging app via sending samples which is all your personal files eventually.
 

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We should expect a surge of new viruses and malware for those platforms then :D
 

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Windows defender is ms's foraging app via sending samples which is all your personal files eventually.
Only the gullible or the totally inept will install this rubbish, and as most Linux users aren't that stupid I wonder what the point is of trying to spy on users this way.
 

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Only the gullible or the totally inept will install this rubbish, and as most Linux users aren't that stupid I wonder what the point is of trying to spy on users this way.
Yeah all 5 of them that use Linux home distros.

BTW Defender ATP =/ Windows Defender.

Two very different products.
 

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Only the gullible or the totally inept will install this rubbish, and as most Linux users aren't that stupid I wonder what the point is of trying to spy on users this way.
It's actually not the Company's fault here it's their rabid Government that has always forced them to do this. That is why Trojan 10 isn't sold or used in Russia or China despite Washington's promises of not interfering (dirty joke of the 21st century here).

If the US regime is ever permanently removed (won't happen in my Life time) then all this unnecessary spying would stop and all the American businesses can go back to providing a confidential service instead of constantly retrieving data for their Government.
 

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It's actually not the Company's fault here it's their rabid Government that has always forced them to do this. That is why Trojan 10 isn't sold or used in Russia or China despite Washington's promises of not interfering (dirty joke of the 21st century here).

If the US regime is ever permanently removed (won't happen in my Life time) then all this unnecessary spying would stop and all the American businesses can go back to providing a confidential service instead of constantly retrieving data for their Government.
I don't know where you get this from but Win Spy is definitely used in China. And M$py are an integral part of the military industrial complex, they were intrumental in the Echelon and Prism projects and are deeply involved with the Pentagon. They are not some poor private company that happens to have been forced by the ebil empire to do their bidding, they are the evil empire, together with Google, Apple, Amazon and others.
 

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I knew the tin foil red hat people were going to come out for this one.
 

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It's actually not the Company's fault here it's their rabid Government that has always forced them to do this. That is why Trojan 10 isn't sold or used in Russia or China despite Washington's promises of not interfering (dirty joke of the 21st century here).

If the US regime is ever permanently removed (won't happen in my Life time) then all this unnecessary spying would stop and all the American businesses can go back to providing a confidential service instead of constantly retrieving data for their Government.
it's gonna take 10x as long to peal it all back as it did to put in place. no matter who's running the show.

n let us remember. different puppet, similar strings, cross, & master. "the swamp" was the common term, but now a days they like to call it the "deep state". Much more sinister! millions of like minded (but rarely well organized) employees working against the revolving door's interest.

it's not really about dem vs. republican. it's more akin to individual rights vs. corporate rights. Corporations, unlike people, are giant money sponges that can slowly bankrupt entire sections of the economy/nation. (see detroit) it's supposed to be a symbiotic relationship, not parasitic. Humans & corporations. it's sad how much money is tied up in doing absolutely nothing but making more money, with little "trickle down" benefit to pretty much anyone.

the classic christmas party where Mr. CEO is like "woot I made an extra 10,000,000 this year, AND purchased a new super tower in down town tampa(the whole thing, land and all)! thanks for the hard work, here's a $100 gift card!!!" to all 300 employees.
 
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Lol this is joke.

How is any AV gonna work on Android when 99.99% of users do not have root access? A normal user level privilege app is somehow gonna monitor other apps, lol fail.

AV on Linux is a joke as well. Nobody runs AV on Linux, except maybe those running email/file servers. If you go on any Linux forum or serious computer forum like where every guy is a comp sci grad programmer (so not this one) you get laughed at when you ask about AV on Linux.
 

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After seeing this discussed elsewhere. The theory is, the purpose of Defender for Linux is for it to run on a Linux server, protecting the Windows machines that connect to it, not to protect the machine it's installed on.
 

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Luckily for Linux, they can uninstall this junk (or never install it in the first place which I would strongly recommend). The rest of us on Windows will have to use 3rd party software to disable this garbage.
 

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The theory is, the purpose of Defender for Linux is for it to run on a Linux server, protecting the Windows machines that connect to it, not to protect the machine it's installed on.
Also it may also be a way of installing tracking software in effect making your nice and clean Linux install into another Trojan based system.

Funny how those that escaped the tracking abilities of Windoze by choosing Linux will in effect be another operating system spied upon at Redmond. Of course the NSA and CIA will be in tow making your machine another vacuum of private data, all heading towards those indecent shysters (fully tax payer funded).

Time to NOT install any so-called Anti-viral Bloatware, onto their new Linux systems.... Because it's already very safe as is, unless the NSA releases a new update for your version of Linux :thinking: .
 
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