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What's the point if these two are so similar, especially when you compare the Toledo cores to the Opterons. I don't understand the differences...
 

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929? maybe you are refering to the 939....anywho optys are better since they have bigger caches, thats what I shoulda got when I upgraded...<img src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" class="inlineimg" />
 

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they're the same. story over.<br />
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the only difference is the lower end ones have 1mbx2 cache...<br />
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that's it.
 

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the only difference is the lower end ones have 1mbx2 cache...<br />
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What he said. At the end it all comes down to price. Right now Opterons are rather cheap.
 

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id get an opty over an X2<br />
usually better overclocks
 

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I would choose X2 over the opti. Just look at my validation links and thats good enough for me. lol.
 

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the ocs are depending on stepping and luck, either way youll probably end up about the same either way, the only advantage is that the lower end say 1.8ghz opti 165 has 2x1mb l2 while the 3800x2 only has 2x512mb l2, this is the only real thing thats better
 

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like already stated the X2 and Opty DC are both Toledo cores, one big difference (Ive owned both) is Ive noticed the Opty uses less volts to get a high OC
 

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Opterons are server CPU's. They're cut from the best silicon on the wafer (the center), and because of this, they are more stable than retail CPU's. They will give you a better OC on average, but the X2 aren't far off the money.
 

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lonnie5000, many opties get to 3ghz+ with adequate cooling..<br><br>
plus the 4200 has only 2x512mb of cache, all opterons have 2x1mb of cache.
 

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Yep, X2 4200 has only 512kb L2 cache per core but it doesn't take away the sort of power it brings at 3GHz. Yikes! That must pack a lot of punch in it!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Thumb"> I could only go so far as 2.6GHz.
 

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I had the same trouble with my X2 4400, the bastard wouldn't go any higher than 2.7 Ghz stable and that was with some crazy volts.<br><br>
I saw some guy on here who got 3 ghz out of his 4200 X2 though......which is remarkable
 

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I Like My X2 ....i Did Some Research And It Just Seemed To Me The Better Investmen.. I Am Oc'ed Right Now On Stock COOLING And Getting Good Perfromance
 

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Thats a good score you got there, is your GPU overclocked? Coz thats not far off my scores with X24400 & X1950XTX
 

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Couldn't Do It Brother .... I Tried But I Had A Good Scare This Afternoon.....using That Ati Tool Thing...just Couldn't Get It Stable Wish I New How. To Tell You The Truth...
 

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As You Can See I Don't Even Have It Unlocked Right Now...... I Can't Even Use The Overdrive Without It Locking Up ....i Am Thinking About Letting It Chill For A While And Then Give It Another Go Maybe..how Did You Do It ... Looks Like You Got Mad Mghz
 

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Have you increased the voltages?<br><br>
Download ATI Tool 25b16pre5 & the latest ATI Tray Tool.<br><br>
In the above mentioned ATI Tool you can adjust the Volts to GPU, Memory, etc. Increase the volts to the GPU a little then raise you overclock 10-15mhz, then scan for artifacts for 10 minutes..........repeat the process but keep an eye on temps<br><br>
Also, if you follow my advice, when you install ATI Tray Tools disable the overclocking option when installing it
 

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Also When I Was Using The Ati Tool I Was Getting 93c On The Card .... Is That To High Do You Think? AND ON ATI TOOL I NEVER SAW A WAY TO INCREASE VOLTAGE I THOUGHT I HAD TO DO IT BY SOMETHING CALLED "PENCIL/SODERN" SOMETHING LIKE THAT:0)
 
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