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Hi all,

I've just put together a very nice rig (so I think anyway). Throw on the i7 3770K with stock cooler and thermal paste and have it running Prime95 on small FFT.

Under no OC, just running stock settings, the temperature rose to the 90s within the first 10 minutes of the test.

Remember this CPU has not been delidded, and I've tried both the thermal paste that came with the heatsink, and some aftermarket Arctic MX-4.

Does this sound normal? Or is something completely wrong? My core voltage is at about 1.256v to 1.264v.

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Before you toss the cpu do some troubleshooting. Make sure that you are applying the thermal paste correctly. Completely clean the surface of the cpu a lintless cloth and isopropyl alcohol. If you know you did that, use a different program to see if it isn't a program glitch on Prime95.
 

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I did remove the old paste with isopropyl, but using tissue paper rather than microfibre. I will use microfibre when i get home tonight to see if it makes that much of a difference.

After removing the old paste, I used some Arctic MX4 using the line method, but the temperature is about the same. Not sure whether I can contact intel or how to contact intel, they haven't been responding on the live support in intel website.
 

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There isn't going to be any appreciable difference between wiping it with a tissue and something else, certainly not enough to make the kind of temps you are seeing. Make sure you have the cooler fully seated and the fan is running at full speed, but I think the obvious issue is that the voltage is seems too high for stock. Did you load the optimized defaults in the BIOS, or did you try to run some kind of auto-overclock on it?

The stock cooler isn't much good, but it should be better than 90C at stock. Double-check the voltage settings in the BIOS.
 

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I loaded optimized default yes. Do I need to flash the bios to a higher version?

I've tried both enabled and disabled HT, both run at about the same temp.

Also, how do I know whether the CPU fan running at full speed or not?
 

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Also, how do I know whether the CPU fan running at full speed or not?
Normally when you first power on the system the fan will briefly run at full speed, and then slow down. Just kind of play it by ear and see if it spins back up to something approaching that level under load. You can check the RPM in something like HWInfo, but you should be able to hear whether it is spinning up or not.
 

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I thought the startup fan speed is being overvolted as the system boots, therefore it spins so much faster? But no, it wasn't going at that speed by a long shot! I believe my case fans are quiet (they are all custom using Noctuas and Gentle Typhoon for my rad). But I can switch them all off to hear the CPU fan?
 

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The optimised default BIOS setting is far from optimal. It has set your vcore at 1.25v. There are some people who run in excess of 4.8ghz with 1.25v. I would suspect this is far too much for the standard 3.5ghz (or 3.9ghz with turbo) on any Ivy CPU. I personally would lower your vcore to 1.1v and then run prime. If you are stable then lower it a little more (and by little I mean its smallest increment) and test again. If its not stable then raise vcore and test again.

Not what you would expect to have to do out of the box but as i am sure you will here time and time again every chip is different. Prime but a load on your CPU that will never be replicated with any kind of daily use and the fact is it is still running within tolerance. I also thought 1.2v was the default voltage for these so the extra 0.5v above an already unnecessary voltage wont exactly be helping. Lower that voltage or get a new cooler and unleash that beasts full potential. The stock coolers are pretty poor. They do the job they are designed to which is keep it within tolerance when at stock clocks and voltage. Nothing more.
 

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Lower that voltage or get a new cooler and unleash that beasts full potential. The stock coolers are pretty poor. They do the job they are designed to which is keep it within tolerance when at stock clocks and voltage. Nothing more.
I have an XSPC RayStorm D5 kit on EX360 setup push and pull. It's not connected yet, I just want to run the stock to see how it goes.

So two profiles
- OC multiplier without adjusting the vcore until it gets unstable, then chuck on the WC loop and continue pumping the vcore? Or
- Reduce vcore on stock cooler, then do the whole OC process until the stock cooler can't handle it, then I chuck on the WC loop and keep pumping?
 

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I thought the startup fan speed is being overvolted as the system boots, therefore it spins so much faster? But no, it wasn't going at that speed by a long shot! I believe my case fans are quiet (they are all custom using Noctuas and Gentle Typhoon for my rad). But I can switch them all off to hear the CPU fan?
On that note you may want to look in the BIOS and adjust the cpu fan settings. You can either disable the CPU fan profile so it runs at full speed or set it to enable then select turbo for a more aggressive fan profile than silent. I think it usually defaults to silent but could be wrong.
 

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I have an XSPC RayStorm D5 kit on EX360 setup push and pull. It's not connected yet, I just want to run the stock to see how it goes.

So two profiles
- OC multiplier without adjusting the vcore until it gets unstable, then chuck on the WC loop and continue pumping the vcore? Or
- Reduce vcore on stock cooler, then do the whole OC process until the stock cooler can't handle it, then I chuck on the WC loop and keep pumping?
I'd stop fannying around with the stock cooler and just get your WC setup on! And then go for option one. Raise multi until OC is unstable then raise vcore
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I'd stop fannying around with the stock cooler and just get your WC setup on! And then go for option one. Raise multi until OC is unstable then raise vcore
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I've never done WC before, and quite concerned about doing it right now to be honest. I have everything I need, just bit hesitant. If you're a programmer, you'll know; when you have implemented a piece of code (a feature or whatever that is really cool) and you are scared to run it. I'm feeling that for my waterloop right now :S.
 

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throw out the stock heatsink. A cheap coolmaster hyper 212 (or better) and some quality TIM (like pk-1 or something) should be your starting point.Why intel boxes that cooler with thier flagship IVY is ... well stooopid.
 

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throw out the stock heatsink. A cheap coolmaster hyper 212 (or better) and some quality TIM (like pk-1 or something) should be your starting point.Why intel boxes that cooler with thier flagship IVY is ... well stooopid.
Yea I got a NH-D14 sitting around somewhere not being used right now. Probably should go for that one first? Then the WC?

Now the thing is, Delid or not?
 

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Yea I got a NH-D14 sitting around somewhere not being used right now. Probably should go for that one first? Then the WC?

Now the thing is, Delid or not?
see what you can do with the D14. What OC are you shooting for? 48x?
 

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you'll need to take that lid off and/or get a water loop at >48 for sure... unless you hit the lottery.
 

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from some quick googling im 100% sure that your voltages are too high for stock.

dont delid anything untill you figure out whats going on... shame on you guys trying to push him past his comfort zone. This is a trouble shooting thread, not a "reccomendations for pushing my chip to its limit" thread.
 
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