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As seen in thread title I built this custom loop just for Over Clocking, it was first planned to run on a car raidator but then coulding figure a way for fittings so switched to 3x 240MM radators<br>
The name 240 3X11X is number count of radators + size and number count of the number on fans hooked onto the radator in total which is 11 fans<br><b>As seen in video this machine is soundless></b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF_13IZ5MCI" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF_13IZ5MCI</a><br><br>
I use this computer for entertianment and I was addicted to overclocking since i first stareted to oc when I was 13 years old (on a e5400 Intel 2 core)<br>
Its on a fx4300, 5x hdd raid0 at 929MB/s max read speed and write speed tops out at 910mb/s max 64kb stripe size, 1tb hdd each limited to 2tb in total since windows dosen't install on a larger than 2tb hdd,<br>
2x hd7850 radeon 2gb+ 28GB RAm warter chilled 2x 2400MHZ 8gb, 1x 1866 8gb, 1x 1600 4GB, water flow meter and water temp meter, coolant mixtrue about 2-5% anti freeze + 95-98% tap water, 2x brushless pumps and fans are externally powered with a seprate voltage controler for pumps, and a sperate for fans.<br>
Pumps and fans run on lowest possible voltage settings, fans are 700RPM max and pumps are bascally soundless, making it feel like its not even powered on when you walk past cause its so silent excatllty like soundless only thing you can hear is hdd sound, and a little bit of vibrations because of hdd and fans<br><br>
Older posts on this machine<br>
<a href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1508015/help-3x240mm-raidator-2xpumps-fx4300-oc-1-6v-very-high-temps">http://www.overclock.net/t/1508015/help-3x240mm-raidator-2xpumps-fx4300-oc-1-6v-very-high-temps</a><br>
<a href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1521005/how-can-i-crash-a-am3-mother-board-wihout-any-cpu-that-goes">http://www.overclock.net/t/1521005/how-can-i-crash-a-am3-mother-board-wihout-any-cpu-that-goes</a><br>
<a href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1500196/300fsb-fx-4300-back-and-rollin-at-4-2ghz-3900ht-2700nb-2000ram/170#post_23056955">http://www.overclock.net/t/1500196/300fsb-fx-4300-back-and-rollin-at-4-2ghz-3900ht-2700nb-2000ram/170#post_23056955</a><br>
<a href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1520926/the-top-10-highest-ghz-last-12-months-fx-4300-5-328ghz-1-68v#post_23056959">http://www.overclock.net/t/1520926/the-top-10-highest-ghz-last-12-months-fx-4300-5-328ghz-1-68v#post_23056959</a><br>
<a href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1498668/fx-4300-oc-5-1ghz-on-water-fully-stable">http://www.overclock.net/t/1498668/fx-4300-oc-5-1ghz-on-water-fully-stable</a><br>
Yes 5.1GHZ it was only stable for about 15-30 mins on mem test full load cpu core and i was fed up with the stability so clocked it down to a stable 4.8GHZ on hours of occt stress <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"><br>
When build first started<br>
<a href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1524258/has-it-been-settled-how-to-apply-tim/40#post_23151985">http://www.overclock.net/t/1524258/has-it-been-settled-how-to-apply-tim/40#post_23151985</a><br>
Used the 3X11X cooling loop version and done some testing on applying heat sink grease<br><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234313/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234313" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234313/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br>
The dude in the back ground thats my dad and he was there to give me extra help. since i don't see it possible doing the loop by one dude after i had made this build<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234318/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234318" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234318/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234321/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234321" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234321/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><br>
Finished build and waiting for a shipping of a old am3 cpu so i can boot up my 990fxa gd80 and update bios back to am3+ and swap the gigabyte for msi, and getting another 5x 12mm ball bearing fans and some fittings and another waterflow meter (dumping the resivior and hoking the pipes straight on to water flow meter and hoking the water temp meter back on) (The reason for dumping resivior that it provides no cooling property just holds water, and cooling down 10ML of water is much faster than cooling down 100ML of water same in the loop, if you have 1l of water in total taking of 200ML the resivior means that you only have 800ML of water meaning cooling down 20%faster on the other hand having more water takes longer for water to heat up and longer to cool down 800ML of 36C water and 1L 36C water cooling down you have 20% more hot substances in the 1L loop 20% longer cool down time)<br>
and adding on another 240MM radator, not getting better water block even the one i am using now is really rubbish, wating for new am4 cpu to come out then getting new mother board cpu ram and hopefully sata4 hdd<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234327/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234327" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234327/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234336/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234336" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234336/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234340/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234340" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234340/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234344/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234344" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234344/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234363/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234363" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234363/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234378/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234378" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234378/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234390/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234390" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234390/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234397/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234397" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234397/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234400/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234400" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234400/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234401/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234401" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234401/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234402/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234402" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234402/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234403/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234403" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234403/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234405/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234405" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234405/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234409/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234409" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234409/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234410/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234410" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234410/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234413/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234413" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234413/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br>
This is the highest point in the loop and there is a hole there to screw open and get rid of air bubbles<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234414/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234414" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234414/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234415/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234415" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234415/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234417/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234417" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234417/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234419/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234419" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234419/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234422/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234422" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234422/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234424/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234424" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234424/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br>
As seen in description pumps and fans are externally powered so i don't blow up my motherboard fan out puts<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234440/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234440" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234440/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a>
 

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This is what my machine used to look like<br>
8350+990fxa gd80 + 1866 ram 8gbX2+ x300 radeon gpu 128MB<br><br><br><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234527/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234527" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234527/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234529/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234529" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234529/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234531/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234531" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234531/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234536/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234536" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234536/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234537/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234537" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234537/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234549/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234549" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234549/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234560/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234560" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234560/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234558/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234558" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234558/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234557/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234557" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234557/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234555/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234555" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234555/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234567/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234567" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234567/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 281px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234569/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2234569" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2234569/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a>
 

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So I am gonna dump the gigabyte when my dad comes back from china with a extra 4x240mm radators, 2 pumps and 5 fans, and a old am3 cpu so i can boot up my msi and update it to a am3+ bios again,<br>
But gigabyte is trying to prove me that it will kind of oc after I took of the vrm and nb heat sink and took off the gapfill grease on the nb and added proper thermal paste, before it can even operate normally ....<a href="http://valid.x86.fr/icsemb" target="_blank">http://valid.x86.fr/icsemb</a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2239810/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2239810" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2239810/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 281px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2239811/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2239811" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2239811/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 281px"></a><br>
1.49V at a 80% cpu load (3 cores occupied) with Extreme LCC setting as seen in HW monitor
 

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why have you got that many fans when not needed, on your rads why dont you do push/pull as that will be better<br><br><br>
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why have you got that many fans when not needed, on your rads why dont you do push/pull as that will be better<br><br><br>
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it will only fit one 120mm fan fittings are in the way<br>
and stack up is same air flow as push pull
 

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The amount of fans that I'm seeing in the Water cooled dinosaur is hurting my eyes. I think you would see better Overclocking if you got a better motherboard. MSI i not my friend. Every MSI board I've ever owned has died in the first 2 years. The gigabyte I had rocked. It was just old and I burned the VRM's over volting to 1.9V.
 
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The amount of fans that I'm seeing in the Water cooled dinosaur is hurting my eyes. I think you would see better Overclocking if you got a better motherboard. MSI i not my friend. Every MSI board I've ever owned has died in the first 2 years. The gigabyte I had rocked. It was just old and I burned the VRM's over volting to 1.9V.</div>
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To be honest out of all of the mother boards I had gigabyte gave me worst experince, during my first 2 core intel the gigabyte died on me in about 2.5-3.5 years, I then got my second 2 core intel with a budget msi that was what i started oc on, moved to 8350 and msi had clocked it nicely and since i thought the msi was dead because heat sink grease went into socekt i got another mobo, and then on other mobo than msi my 8350 will no boot windows on stock voltage and same with gigabyte, i also had my second 8350 and that one runs extremly hot and will not do any higher clocks that my half deaf 8350. since msi had nb multiplyer locked i was planning to downgrade bios version to find one that might be unlocked nb multiplyer and by accdent updated to am3 cpu support only and msi was gone for about 1.5-2 years, got a gigabyte since in my place no one sells msi.... yeah no msi at all even the gpus are rare. finally gigabyte dided on me again, running amazingly hot on stock cooling and will not even operate properly on a 0.9V core and extremly low ghz 1.35GHZ cpu since nb and vrm over heats, took out gigabyte and currently using a 970 pro no vrm heat sink lol,<br>
and msi will be back again in december when my dad brings back a old phemon am3 cpu and 3 radators and 2 pumps and stuff
 

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So its doing some clocks and some cpu burning in hopping this can bring it to 4.1GHZ stable on same 1.248V cpu voltage <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2248646/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2248646" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2248646/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 281px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2248647/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2248647" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2248647/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 281px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2248648/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2248648" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2248648/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 281px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2248649/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2248649" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2248649/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 281px"></a><br><br>
Also proof that i had two 8350 <a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2248694/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2248694" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2248694/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2248697/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2248697" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2248697/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 375px"></a>
 

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You should just get an Asus board. You'll be much happier. I know I was. Still am. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif">
 
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You should just get an Asus board. You'll be much happier. I know I was. Still am. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"></div>
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I have a MSI 990FXA GD80 waiting for a old am3 cpu to boot up and update to am3+ bios and I do not like asus or any other brands than msi <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif">
 

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I have a MSI 990FXA GD80 waiting for a old am3 cpu to boot up and update to am3+ bios and I do not like asus or any other brands than msi <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"></div>
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And I'm sure you do. It's just that the man boards I have had, melt, overheat, bios errors, and would not cooperate with me. Especially the UEFI bios versions.
 

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And I'm sure you do. It's just that the man boards I have had, melt, overheat, bios errors, and would not cooperate with me. Especially the UEFI bios versions.</div>
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I know how you feel cause i used gigabyte 990FXA ud3 and their heat sink vrm and NB and gap pads gave me an hard time and it finally died on me <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif">
 

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And MSI yes It was gonna blow up if I didn't add some heat sink pads on no contact at all with heat sink on the vrm without pads <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258636/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2258636" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258636/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258637/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2258637" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258637/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 150px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258638/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2258638" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258638/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 150px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258639/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2258639" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258639/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258640/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2258640" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258640/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258641/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2258641" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258641/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258642/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2258642" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258642/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258643/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2258643" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2258643/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a>
 

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Interesting. You said that your dad brings all this stuff home from where?<br>
Why not just buy from newegg?
 

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Interesting. You said that your dad brings all this stuff home from where?<br>
Why not just buy from newegg?</div>
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Good question my dad brings back my stuff from China, Recviing a AM3 athlon 2 x2 (2core) second hand he told me on the phone that it only cost 8.16USD (50RMB) and my radators it cost about 16.32 usd each for my 240MM radators and fittings a few cents and RAM water cooler kit costed about 63usd (heat sink pads, ram metal coolers every thing you need) water pumps brushless also cost about 13usd each, and water flow meter also around 13 usd each don't know about water temp meter though, but for the whole 3x 240mm radator from scratch + the metal block fittings it costed about 160USD (note that dad got 2 metal water blocks its included in the 160 usd) copper water CPU water blocks in china also cost about 40-100USD max depending on model and design
 

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So you dislike Asus, the company who makes the absolute best AM3+ motherboard, the CHV-FZ, and the second best, the Sabertooth R2.0?<br><br>
MSI's GD80 is not the abysmal, potentially explosive excuse for a board that the large majority for the platform are, but there is a difference between "aacceptable" and "ideal".<br><br>
AActually, I would say Asus made the largest effort to deliver quality boards for AM3+, and they actually delivered. Most companies just made the bare minimum, although in ffairness the FX-series processors power draw when overclocked is absolutely absurd, so bad that I don't fault any company who's boards began development before they had true "final version" sample chips, and even then prototypes are by their very nature different due to the difference in production for a small amount vs worldwide distribution.<br>
AMD deserves part of the blame for developing something that is something of a contradiction... Consumes 200W+ but we'reuusingan inferior process so 72C can kill yyour chip, which we market as God's gift to overclockers and even sell the worst performance per dollar CPU in recent history, the 9xxx whatever because we are suffering an unprecedented low in Product Comparison Bulletpoints we can twist to make us look semi-competent, but now we have "First5Ghz chip" jjust don't read subnotation 9374B71.5 because it totally doesn't say that it is not 5Ghz x8 "cores" and is only a measurement of Single module boost or anything....<br><br><br>
Asus consistently creates the absolute highest-end boards for both Intel (Rampage Extreme series) and also AMD (Crosshair Series), although Gigabyte has become a very strong contender the past few gens. MSI and the rest have occasional hits, but the trend is inconsistent at best.<br><br>
I owned a Crosshair V Formula Z, and it is in another class re build quality, component quality, features, and so forth vs theGD80. Ssame with the Sabertooth R2.0, which is the best board for regular overclocking based on components and design, and I think HWBot would support this...<br>
Consequently, you would be better off with the Sabertooth, especially considering how you approach overclocking in a, umm, "unique" fashion, that values voltage over learning from the many of us who've been doing this for orders of magnitude greater time...<br><br>
Basically, Asus went way out of their way to deliver the best possible product at the target price, over myriad target prices, and delivered in every possible way.<br>
They did all this for a market that is a very small subset of an already niche market.<br>
This is exactly what I would think you would want to support, and thereby encourage others to follow.<br>
I am not surprised that you did the opposite.
 
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So you dislike Asus, the company who makes the absolute best AM3+ motherboard, the CHV-FZ, and the second best, the Sabertooth R2.0?<br><br>
MSI's GD80 is not the abysmal, potentially explosive excuse for a board that the large majority for the platform are, but there is a difference between "aacceptable" and "ideal".<br><br>
AActually, I would say Asus made the largest effort to deliver quality boards for AM3+, and they actually delivered. Most companies just made the bare minimum, although in ffairness the FX-series processors power draw when overclocked is absolutely absurd, so bad that I don't fault any company who's boards began development before they had true "final version" sample chips, and even then prototypes are by their very nature different due to the difference in production for a small amount vs worldwide distribution.<br>
AMD deserves part of the blame for developing something that is something of a contradiction... Consumes 200W+ but we'reuusingan inferior process so 72C can kill yyour chip, which we market as God's gift to overclockers and even sell the worst performance per dollar CPU in recent history, the 9xxx whatever because we are suffering an unprecedented low in Product Comparison Bulletpoints we can twist to make us look semi-competent, but now we have "First5Ghz chip" jjust don't read subnotation 9374B71.5 because it totally doesn't say that it is not 5Ghz x8 "cores" and is only a measurement of Single module boost or anything....<br><br><br>
Asus consistently creates the absolute highest-end boards for both Intel (Rampage Extreme series) and also AMD (Crosshair Series), although Gigabyte has become a very strong contender the past few gens. MSI and the rest have occasional hits, but the trend is inconsistent at best.<br><br>
I owned a Crosshair V Formula Z, and it is in another class re build quality, component quality, features, and so forth vs theGD80. Ssame with the Sabertooth R2.0, which is the best board for regular overclocking based on components and design, and I think HWBot would support this...<br>
Consequently, you would be better off with the Sabertooth, especially considering how you approach overclocking in a, umm, "unique" fashion, that values voltage over learning from the many of us who've been doing this for orders of magnitude greater time...<br><br>
Basically, Asus went way out of their way to deliver the best possible product at the target price, over myriad target prices, and delivered in every possible way.<br>
They did all this for a market that is a very small subset of an already niche market.<br>
This is exactly what I would think you would want to support, and thereby encourage others to follow.<br>
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<b><i><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Dispite the fact that asus got the highest clocks on CPUZ I don't reckon it will suit me cause of the chokes</span></i></b><br><b>Before you talk about MSI and more you need to know that they are using 10X of a bad ass Fat type Transistors for their mobo (could have been better if they got larger sized 80Amps or higher)<br>
These are 40A at 12V or 38A at 19V</b><br>
<a href="http://www.msi.com/product/mb/990FXAGD80.html#hero-overview" target="_blank">http://www.msi.com/product/mb/990FXAGD80.html#hero-overview</a><br><b>"</b>DrMOS possesses switch frequency which is 400% faster than traditional MOSFET<b>"</b> 4X faster than normal transistors meaning you will get more precise and accurate voltage and current flow<br>
<a href="http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/mainboard/msi-990fxa-gd80-990fx-p1.html" target="_blank">http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/mainboard/msi-990fxa-gd80-990fx-p1.html</a><br>
You also wanna have a look at the review now just me <b>"</b>The CPU VRM has 10 phases based on FairChild FDMF6704V DrMOS chips, induction coils with ferrite cores and Tantalum capacitors (15 x 470 µF in the low-voltage circuit, 5 x 470 µF solid in the input circuit)<b>"</b><br><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><b><i>Also Take Asus out of the Market without double the ammount of chokes they are using on their top am3+ mobo</i> [/B</b></span>]<span style="text-decoration:underline;"><b>it will over heat once your overclock and stress on hard core voltages (Thats why you want msi super freite chokes higher current out put so it runs cooler)</b></span><br><b><i>VRM PICTURE TAKE THAT OUT OF THE MARKET its gonna blow up once it goes into the hands of Iwamotto Tetsuzo and getting some sick cpu voltages through the core with stress on for the night for stability test</i></b><b>>>>>></b><br>
<a href="http://rog.asus.com/118772012/crosshair-motherboards/preview-crosshair-v-formula-z/" target="_blank">http://rog.asus.com/118772012/crosshair-motherboards/preview-crosshair-v-formula-z/</a><br>
<a href="http://rog.asus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/crosshair-v-formula-z-extreme-engine-digi-2.jpg" target="_blank">http://rog.asus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/crosshair-v-formula-z-extreme-engine-digi-2.jpg</a><br><br><div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1411009/5-ghz-overclocks-vishera/100#post_23156363" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
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Well, Tetsuzo, you just solved the mystery of the single MSI AM3+ motherboard that actually shines. Yes, it has super ferrite chokes, but more importantly, no Nikos! When you put Nikos out of the equation, suddenly the chances you make a very good board, skyrocket! Thanks to your photo, i found it uses Fairchild DrMos. This is the exact model used:<br><br>
<a href="https://www.fairchildsemi.com/datasheets/FD/FDMF6705.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.fairchildsemi.com/datasheets/FD/FDMF6705.pdf</a><br><br>
I think you deserve a rep for making this board officially safe.<br><br>
Compare Fairchild (actually an american company with 60 years behind its back) awards<br><br>
<a href="https://www.fairchildsemi.com/about/awards-accolades/" target="_blank">https://www.fairchildsemi.com/about/awards-accolades/</a><br><br>
and history<br>
<a href="https://www.fairchildsemi.com/about/history-heritage/" target="_blank">https://www.fairchildsemi.com/about/history-heritage/</a><br><br>
To Nikos:<br><br>
<a href="http://english.niko-sem.com/in/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Category=103961&Part=CompanyProfile" target="_blank">http://english.niko-sem.com/in/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Category=103961&Part=CompanyProfile</a><br><br>
At the end, when you dig out things, it all turns out to make sense, doesn't it...</div>
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So hers the picture of a FXA990 gd80 VRM and when i saw the transistors so many legs(fat design) i'm thinking that must be some kind of latest design of transistors generating higher out put and operating at lower temps. and i only took a picture since i added some new paste for it preparing it to be ready to go in december and yeah over board with heat sink paste on vrm, also note that msi has its heat sink fitted on properly without having to add spacers unlike other mobo that uses gap pads and you must have a spacer for it to fit properly on ....<br>
Also why its better because they have chockes that out put 30% higher current meaning it will run 30% cooler than normal chockes<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2252407/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2252407" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2252407/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2252408/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2252408" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2252408/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2252414/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2252414" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2252414/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a></div>
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Currently water temp and CPU IHS temp are 30-40C diffrence meaning my steel water block is hell of a hold back, with copper we would have around 7-20C CPU IHS and water temp diffrence <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"><br><br>
RAID0 5X 1TB Sata3 Segate 220MB/s max read speed single drive, performance test<br>
And of course with some programs running<br>
This RAID0 max read speed should hit about 935MB/s maximum if I take out 1 hdd and swap it for a SSHD it will hit around 960MB/s max read speed<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259360/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2259360" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259360/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259361/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2259361" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259361/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259362/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2259362" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259362/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259363/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2259363" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259363/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259364/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2259364" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259364/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259365/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2259365" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259365/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259366/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2259366" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259366/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259367/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2259367" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259367/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259368/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2259368" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259368/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259369/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="2259369" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2259369/width/200/height/400/flags/LL" style="; width: 200px; height: 113px"></a>
 

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Finally figured that once you overheat and kill your cpu your motherboard dies with it since the transistors at the back equals to the temp of cpu (touch the back of your GPU core same temps)<br><br>
The phmon 2 was on the old msi gd80 and i forgoot to put on my pump for the 280 nepton and killed it and was wating for a nother cpu till i got the 8usd second hand 220Athlon and figured out that mother board socket overheats and dies with CPU since its same or near temps<br>
and the parts is here and the 4300 is being polished by a 320 and a 1200 high grade sand paper and it is becoming an golden core (ignoring that its not a golden bin CPU, looks of IHS), reciving shippment of a new fxa990 gd80 brought online and arvies around 17-29of december, and the 3 radators extra pump and taking away resiverior will happen tommrow, and the lasping of cpu water block (its actually a copper block coated with heaps of steel colour paint - -)
 

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