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In an interview with The Inquirer Taylor says that AMD is planning to take the processor from the Playstation 4 to the PC market. The reservation is that Sony-exclusive bits off and the number of units is reduced. It is probably the so-called "binning", where circuits that do not measure up to the game console converted to deprecated models.
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Everything that Sony has shared in that single chip is AMD [intellectual property], but we have not built an APU quite like that for anyone else in the market. It is by far the most powerful APU we have built to date, it leverages [intellectual property] that you will find in our A-series APUs later this year, our new generation of APUs but none that will quite be to that level of sheer number of cores, sheer number of teraflops.
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The original Intervju at The Inquirer

Does this mean we'll have octa core apu's in form of jaguar x8 with much stronger built in gpu or is it a twist of words just saying what we already know about kabini? What im most interested in is if they might keep some kind of gddr5 bus betwen the cpu and gpu in apu's to come.
 

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Definitely interesting.
 

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They have to get rid of they semi-functional chips somehow.
 

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A 4 to 6 core APU with a 7850 to 7870 class gpu would be the perfect thing for a cheap entry level gaming rig. I wonder how long it will take for the PS4 to be hacked and somebody to install a flavor of Linux on it.
edit: actually these could be what the steam box will be based on...
 

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LOL that is depressing. The PS4 APU will be better than any AMD APUs out this year?

Whatever happens to "consoles have worse hardware than PC"?

Edit: Are they talking about 3D performance or CPU performance? If its 3D performance I understand it since its slightly faster than a 7850. If its CPU performance, thats a big LOL.
 

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The CPU part of it is on the weak side for pc standards. In a console environment where it doesn't have to deal with windows and all that jazz it may even outpace desktop i5s in relative performance but PC is a different story. Perhaps sell it as hexacore with higher clocks? No idea. On top of that the gpu part is 78x0 class, hi-end for laptop standards. I have no idea what sort of APU will that be. We'll have to wait and see.
 

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so, we're going to get a cut down hex core 7860, sounds interesting.

We might be getting some hex core/7850s and/or hexcore 7770's and the such, depending on how they bin it.
 

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8 Core APU?????

TAKE MY MONEY!
The article said it won't have the same amount of cores as the ps4 apu... but that probably means AMD will just be disabling some cores or something no? Unlockable 4 core apu with a potential of 8 cores with gcn for ~$100...
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i wouldn't even be mad.
 

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Looks like I just found my next ITX HTPC processor.

Hopefully this will just drop into an FM2 socket board? If so, I may switch my i3 build over to trinity now while we wait.
 

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If this indeed comes into fruition, and has more than 4 cores (or can unlock cores) it might mean the revival of one of my planned rigs
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Looks like I just found my next ITX HTPC processor.

Hopefully this will just drop into an FM2 socket board? If so, I may switch my i3 build over to trinity now while we wait.
That AMD guy might just talk about us having our Kabini wich is a 1.8GHz 4 core Jaguar with decent GPU, not great as the PS4 will have.
But that would mean hes wrong about us getting something from the PS4 as Kabini is just a normal PC part and something from the PS4 would be custom except for the SONY stuff.
 

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A 4 to 6 core APU with a 7850 to 7870 class gpu would be the perfect thing for a cheap entry level gaming rig. I wonder how long it will take for the PS4 to be hacked and somebody to install a flavor of Linux on it.
edit: actually these could be what the steam box will be based on...
Jaguar Desktop APU with only 4 cores and such powerfull GPU found in PS4 that does not make any sense.Such APU would have had far less CPU pefformanse, compared to say A10-6500K reason is very simple Jaguar CPU can not operate at high frequencies say 3GHz.

Such Jaguar Desktop APU combination, is only possible and logical with 8 or 6 Core Jaguar CPU+GPU.In practice it would look like this example below, but instead E-350 APU that would be the Jaguar APU with either 8 or 6 Cores + GPU.
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http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=E350M1
 

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Hmmm.... But, if it pops into a standard FM2 socket, it won't have anything approaching the performance of the PS4, would it? After all, it'd be stuck trying to run that GPU through a much, much slower RAM Interface. Also, it means that it would have to be a different chip- I doubt the PS4's memory controller would support both the extremely wide GDDR5 interface AND the narrower DDR3 one?

Also, 4 faster cores > 8 slower ones, IMO, especially in the PC world. I'm not sure how awesome this is going to be. It might be OK for future, well-threaded games but for today's games I'm not sure.
 

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Edit: Are they talking about 3D performance or CPU performance? If its 3D performance I understand it since its slightly faster than a 7850. If its CPU performance, thats a big LOL.
Seems they mean raw gigaflops.
 

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Hopefully this will just drop into an FM2 socket board?
If that was true, maybe the PS4 cpu won't be soldered to motherboard. Then maybe some enterprising people will buy PS4's and use the hardware in desktop PC's.
 

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Hmmm.... But, if it pops into a standard FM2 socket, it won't have anything approaching the performance of the PS4, would it? After all, it'd be stuck trying to run that GPU through a much, much slower RAM Interface. Also, it means that it would have to be a different chip- I doubt the PS4's memory controller would support both the extremely wide GDDR5 interface AND the narrower DDR3 one?

Also, 4 faster cores > 8 slower ones, IMO, especially in the PC world. I'm not sure how awesome this is going to be. It might be OK for future, well-threaded games but for today's games I'm not sure.
I think you may be right, the quad core APU that will have GCN inside may make more sense. It will be interesting to see the graphics performance of this bastardized APU out in the "real" world.
 

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sounds like it would be fantastic in a laptop if it has a really strong gpu on the cpu.
That's what I was thinking. Although, I'm pretty sure these will just be binned PS4 chips, they aren't making extra just for the purpose of selling them. But hey, this could be a fun chip to mess with!

You can't blame AMD though, sell those lower end chips, don't waste them. It's not unlike NVidia's Titan using binned Tesla chips, or Intel's highly teired binning system for their architectures. It's either landfill them and use them as a tax write-off, or lower the specs and sell them. For the sake of the market, I'd much rather them be sold, even if I have no interrest in any specific one.
 
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