[TA]i9 Gulftown Review

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Newbie2009

Discussion Starter · Nov 23, 2009

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For the last seven years we've been doing our best to provide you with reviews of the very latest computer components. We have always been trying to publish product reviews on the day of their world premiere. This time we are presenting something special: a detailed review of the upcoming Intel Core i9 processor codenamed Gulftown.

http://pclab.pl/art39718.html

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carayan

· #2 · Nov 23, 2009

Could be better..

Murlocke

· #3 · Nov 23, 2009

It's not a final product and this sucker is a 6 core (12 with HT) processor. When apps code better for this, it will start to shine much more. I thought about grabbing an i7 to pair with my 5890, but I'm gonna wait for this one.

It destroys the i7 on *most* benchmarks. Real world performance gains between the i7 and i9 will probably be rather small on 1920x1200 or 2560x1600, but i've had my Q6600 since it released and I still feel it is overkill... The i9 will be future proof for around 3-4 years most likely. Processors are getting less and less useful when running extremely high resolutions in real world situtations.

manolith

· #4 · Nov 23, 2009

this cpu should be good for folding but for gaming is just the same as an i7 after its overclocked.

Murlocke

· #5 · Nov 23, 2009

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this cpu should be good for folding but for gaming is just the same as an i7 after its overclocked.

Yes, an overclocked i7 will be onpar (or better) with a stock i9.... but a overclocked i9 will still own an overclocked i7.

The 2 extra cores will help quite a bit for newer games. It seems even at the same clocks the i9 will be faster than the i7, even with the 2 extra cores disabled.

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yellowtoblerone

· #6 · Nov 23, 2009

Not to mention page 2 stating support problems for the chip that hindered what speeds it can do.

I sold my 920 in anticipation for this baby, thus am a lil biased. - Can't wait

thegreatsquare

· #7 · Nov 23, 2009

I'll just cut to the very crux of the matter for OCN, H2O may be entering obsolescence.

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Based on our short experience in overclocking a 32-nanometer six-core, we can venture a conclusion that the temperatures will not be a limiting factor for maximum overclocking in the air. What could be a limit is rather the voltage â€" the maximum frequency for stable operation scales with voltage much better than on Core i7. Unfortunately, we have no knowledge of degradation on these processors under the influence of high voltage. Around 1.4 V is probably the highest reasonable value of when air- or water-cooling. We will try to come back to overclocking this processor (including extreme overclocking).

dham

· #8 · Nov 23, 2009

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It's not a final product and this sucker is a 6 core (12 with HT) processor. When apps code better for this, it will start to shine much more. I thought about grabbing an i7 to pair with my 5890, but I'm gonna wait for this one.

It destroys the i7 on *most* benchmarks. Real world performance gains between the i7 and i9 will probably be rather small on 1920x1200 or 2560x1600, but i've had my Q6600 since it released and I still feel it is overkill... The i9 will be future proof for around 3-4 years most likely. Processors are getting less and less useful when running extremely high resolutions in real world situtations.

You know this thing will be $1000+ when it comes out right? Its an extreme edition. Might as well buy the i7 and be good for the next 2 years so you can let applications catch up to even 4 - 8 cores.

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Murlocke

· #9 · Nov 23, 2009

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You know this thing will be $1000+ when it comes out right? Its an extreme edition. Might as well buy the i7 and be good for the next 2 years so you can let applications catch up to even 4 - 8 cores.

I bought the QX6700 for $1200 when it came out. I hated myself for it though, since I replaced it with a Q6600 G0 which could overclock much higher a couple of months later.

I'm hoping that Intel releases a non-extreme edition along side the extreme... Since i'm not sure I want to spend another grand on a CPU.

When it comes down to it though, my Q6600 performs nearly identical to the i7 in games at my native resolution of 2560x1600... and in order to upgrade to the i7 - I need a new mobo and ram as well.

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sodaholic134

· #10 · Nov 23, 2009

I think the Core i9 will start to shine even more when DirectX 11 games become more prevalent.

Still, the Core i9 is a beast. The power consumption is also very nice thanks to 32nm. That's one thing AMD won't have with its 6-core desktop processor.

yellowtoblerone

· #11 · Nov 23, 2009

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I bought the QX6700 for $1200 when it came out. I hated myself for it though, since I replaced it with a Q6600 G0 which could overclock much higher a couple of months later.

I'm hoping that Intel releases a non-extreme edition along side the extreme... Since i'm not sure I want to spend another grand on a CPU.

When it comes down to it though, my Q6600 performs nearly identical to the i7 in games at my native resolution of 2560x1600... and in order to upgrade to the i7 - I need a new mobo and ram as well.

Really? I saw a dramatic improvement in game fps when I went from qx9650 4.0 to my 920. (at 1900x1200)

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jrharvey

· #12 · Nov 23, 2009

Looks like an amazing chip and it runs even cooler than the i7. Amazing. Cant wait to pick this thing up

This cinebench benchmarks sold me. It would make one heck of a rendering machine.

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Newbie2009

Discussion Starter · #13 · Nov 23, 2009

I think the lesser version of this will be my next cpu (the non extreme non $1000+ version)

Unless the AMD bulldozer surprises me with performance.

JasonCz

· #14 · Nov 23, 2009

I cant wait to see 12 buckets rendering in 3ds Max.

Im starting to save my pennies.

Newbie2009

Discussion Starter · #15 · Nov 23, 2009

Surely they will release a more mainstream one also, like the i7 920

parityboy

· #16 · Nov 24, 2009

I notice a few people seem to think that 2 extra cores will suddenly lead to an increase in in-game framerates.

Considering the fact that most games aren't actually multi-threaded to any great degree, and therefore cannot take full advantage of a multi-core processor, how did you come to such a conclusion?

OpTicaL

· #17 · Nov 24, 2009

I'm thinking a 32nm Bloomfield i7 would perform better or just the same. The marketing of "more is better" is ridiculous. It's a common fallacy that more cores = better performance.

Not all apps make use of dual cores and now they're talking about 6 core 12 threads?

coelacanth

· #18 · Nov 24, 2009

Will it be able to play Crysis?

Can't wait for the next gen Intel and AMD chips.

Dopamin3

· #19 · Nov 24, 2009

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Will it be able to play Crysis?

Can't wait for the next gen Intel and AMD chips.

Fix'd.

AMD is staying on 45nm, and adding 2 cores to Deneb and calling it a day. Nothing is exciting about that unfortunately. While they can't even compete with i7, Intel will be releasing mega uber awesome 32nm 6 core/12 thread CPUs that probably OC very easily and draw way less power than an AMD that performs half as well.

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BloodThirstyEmu

· #20 · Nov 24, 2009

3dsmax 2010.. here i come

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