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[TF] Economists: Abolish Copyright & Patents to Save the Economy

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Two economists from Washington University have looked at current copyright and patent laws and concluded that they’re not good. The pair see current Intellectual property laws as similar to ‘medieval trade monopolies’ which were bad for the economy as a whole, and are calling for the system to be reformed.

I found this one to be an interesting read, along with the video.

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Destroy copyright, destroy creativity. What an awful idea. Really.
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Originally Posted by alex98uk View Post
Destroy copyright, destroy creativity. What an awful idea. Really.
It just needs a revision really, the freedom of ideas and creativity between people will only create more ideas and creativity.
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Originally Posted by alex98uk View Post
Destroy copyright, destroy creativity. What an awful idea. Really.
I agree.
Reform sounds a lot better. Stopping events from occurring like Microsoft patenting page up and page down buttons would be a step in the right direction.
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Why don't we just do away with money altogether..?? Have a united planet where everyone shares everything and no human being is hungry or cold. . ... . O wait this is real life .. I forgot.
It's never going to happen. There is way too much of a political agenda for anything like this to even have a remote chance of passing.
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Why don't we just do away with money altogether..?? Have a united planet where everyone shares everything and no human being is hungry or cold. . ... . O wait this is real life .. I forgot.
yeah i doubt neo-tribalism will ever become a reality

his name is robert paulson....
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Why don't we just do away with money altogether..?? Have a united planet where everyone shares everything and no human being is hungry or cold.
A.K.A. a perfect socialist world which we are not capable of because we are human.

Also abolishing copyright would be the craziest thing anyone could EVER do, the world would run rampant with crap. But it could help the computer industry grow dramatically. ati can help perfect nvidia cores and vice versa.
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They can say it all they want, but its not gonna happen.
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Originally Posted by Hayday View Post
A.K.A. a perfect socialist world which we are not capable of because we are human.

Also abolishing copyright would be the craziest thing anyone could EVER do, the world would run rampant with crap. But it could help the computer industry grow dramatically. ati can help perfect nvidia cores and vice versa.
...and why would we want to. The world has enough deadbeats supported by those of us that work hard and enjoy contributing to society.

I also agree that reform is what is needed not complete abolishment of the system.
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...and why would we want to. The world has enough deadbeats supported by those of us that work hard and enjoy contributing to society.

I also agree that reform is what is needed not complete abolishment of the system.
go educated urself one it before posting plz
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Destroy copyright, destroy creativity. What an awful idea. Really.

Over copyrighting, (IE apple) can destroy creativity too.
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Patents and copyrights only slow down the advancement of technology. There are pros and cons to abolishing this whole idea, the pros are technology will advance faster, now that anyone can use any existing technology. The cons, some companies will simply stop R&D because why should they pay to do the research only to have someone copy their technology righter after implementation?
Do it right and you can save us. Do it wrong and you can destroy us. The copyright system cannot remain the same though.
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Patents and copyrights only slow down the advancement of technology. There are pros and cons to abolishing this whole idea, the pros are technology will advance faster, now that anyone can use any existing technology. The cons, some companies will simply stop R&D because why should they pay to do the research only to have someone copy their technology righter after implementation?

True, should revise the laws so that they have to share all the technology and anyone could remake it, but have to pay the creator a certain % of the income. I know they can already do this, but make it so they can't keep it their dirty little tech so no one else can use it *cough*x86*cough* . Would help advance tech and still give R&D a reason to live on
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go educated urself one it before posting plz


Pardon me but I will put my education up against yours any day (a slam dunk based on your post alone). One BA, one BS and working on a Masters...
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Originally Posted by Tyrker
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True, should revise the laws so that they have to share all the technology and anyone could remake it, but have to pay the creator a certain % of the income. I know they can already do this, but make it so they can't keep it their dirty little tech so no one else can use it *cough*x86*cough* . Would help advance tech and still give R&D a reason to live on
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That's the best idea........ if it's so easy to ocme up with the idea in the first place, then why didn't someone else do it first? It's a lot easier to "improve" on a concept than to come up with the concept in the first place, so the originator should reap some reward for coming up with the concept in the first place.............BUT, exclusive rights to the idea??!!?!. that just ******* further innovation!
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Pardon me but I will put my education up against yours any day (a slam dunk based on your post alone). One BA, one BS and working on a Masters...

Congratulations, now please stay on topic like any mature adult with education would.

Anyway, this will never go anytime soon. Unless there is a royal outcry for reform, it won't get anywhere. Though I can see potential benefits from a Copyright revision, which is more likely than abolition.
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Reforming the copyright laws might not be a half-bad idea. They would have to be VERY careful if they did it though to not completely screw them up.

That said, considering how complicated the system really is, I think it works quite well. No system is perfect, but there are ones that work better than others.

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Originally Posted by Hayday View Post
A.K.A. a perfect socialist world which we are not capable of because we are human.

Also abolishing copyright would be the craziest thing anyone could EVER do, the world would run rampant with crap. But it could help the computer industry grow dramatically. ati can help perfect nvidia cores and vice versa.

Then I can open a factory and produce everything that ATI and nVidia worked so hard to develop! It would be awesome, I could easily profit off of nVidia's work. I could even sell it for less then them because I didn't have to do any of the development!

If only copyrights were all removed, I could profit off the hard work of others! Not only that, but they will certainly continue to develop products so I can make a profit off of them while they experience heavy losses!

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go educated urself one it before posting plz

Do not bash what somebody else said without providing an intelligent post yourself. In fact, lets not have personal insults at all; only comment on what was said, mkay?
Also, complete sentences, proper spelling, and punctuation are good to have.
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Why don't we just do away with money altogether..?? Have a united planet where everyone shares everything and no human being is hungry or cold. . ... . O wait this is real life .. I forgot.
Money is just an analogue for work. Say I will lap your cpu if you will work on the cable management in my comp. That's a trade right? What if there is someone else that provides food but cares nothing for computers? Then that trade wouldn't work so well for his needs, but if we have money, then I can lap your cpu for a small fee, and pay u to do the cable management in my pc. But now we can do business with the guy that doesn't care at all for computers with the money we earned. That is the purpose of currency.
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