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Damn son. Damn sony. Does not like people stealing their stuff but likes to steal from others.
Hope you enjoy Microsoft dominating and thus exploiting the entire games console market, if so. You hate Sony more than EA? Comcast?Originally Posted by nagle3092
I hope she smashes them. If any company would fall of the face of the earth I would hope its Sony.
Originally Posted by Shrak
I think it depends on the situation.
Sony had DFSB handling the acquisition of rights to use the song. Had DFSB done their job properly, either by getting the rights or telling Sony they couldn't get the rights, then Sony Pictures probably wouldn't have used it.
Though had Sony Pictures known they didn't have the rights and still used it, then sure blame Sony Pictures. But why would they do that? Surely they would know a lawsuit would be heading their way. It simply wouldn't make sense to do that at all.
Jumping on Sony Pictures in the way people want to is not going to mean anything without having information on the situation.
There was no source when I posted. Nor was the title correctly formatted.
I hope she takes them to the cleaners and uses their own logic against them, unfortunately the Judges aren't going to view it that way. A huge factor in things like this is intent, and it is going to be impossible for the artist to prove that Sony willfully violated her Copyright, and intended to cause her loss. The size of Sony alone is going to allow them to say "Well, we didn't know, it was a mix up, sorry." and so on. Hell, Sony will also have the ability to push it off on the 3rd party they had trying to negotiate the deal.Originally Posted by Darkpriest667
In the past Sony has sued individuals for violating their copyright by illegally sharing music. In 100% of the lawsuits Sony has enacted against pirates they have sought the maximum fines permitted under the law: $150,000 per instance of piracy.
That means they have sued individuals for over $4.5 million for sharing 30 songs, they said they were seeking maximum damages because copyright was important and it was necessary to seek maximum damages to dissuade other pirates. And they have maintained that really it ought to be $150,000 per person who downloaded the song illegally, which in some cases put the amount they were seeking from an individual into the billions.
So far, just in youtube views alone (for which Sony charged $6.50 each), The Interview has been seen by 77 million people.
By Sony's own legal reasoning, therefore, they owe Yoon Mi Rae an absolute minimum of $11,625,000,000,000.
That's not how things work in a court of law. She's going to get a minimum of 10 million dollar settlement.Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie
I hope she takes them to the cleaners and uses their own logic against them, unfortunately the Judges aren't going to view it that way. A huge factor in things like this is intent, and it is going to be impossible for the artist to prove that Sony willfully violated her Copyright, and intended to cause her loss. The size of Sony alone is going to allow them to say "Well, we didn't know, it was a mix up, sorry." and so on. Hell, Sony will also have the ability to push it off on the 3rd party they had trying to negotiate the deal.
In the end she is going to get a few bucks from them and settle, at most. On the public side it will be a "Sorry, it was just a misunderstanding due to business size. Our bad."
Actually, it is, it is a matter of intent. Intent is a huge factor in Court and determines a lot, including what crime was committed and what the punishment/penalty for that crime is. Hell, you are talking the difference between things like Homicide and Murder. Homicide being one human killing another, while Murder is one human killing another with intent. The difference in punishment between the two is massive!Originally Posted by MapRef41N93W
That's not how things work in a court of law. She's going to get a minimum of 10 million dollar settlement.
This is is a civil case.Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie
Actually, it is, it is a matter of intent. Intent is a huge factor in Court and determines a lot, including what crime was committed and what the punishment/penalty for that crime is. Hell, you are talking the difference between things like Homicide and Murder. Homicide being one human killing another, while Murder is one human killing another with intent. The difference in punishment between the two is massive!
Intent is huge.
She is going to struggle to an extreme degree to prove that Sony had the intent to violate the Copyright law and cause her damages. Frankly, even with the "advantage" that this doesn't have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, but only to the preponderance of evidence, she is going to have a hard time.
Yes, I am aware of that, and why I said she has the "advantage" of only having to prove based on the preponderance of evidence and not beyond a reasonable doubt. Did you even read what I said?Originally Posted by MapRef41N93W
This is is a civil case.
That is freaking amazing, and I would hope her Lawyers are smart enough to do the same math.Originally Posted by Darkpriest667
In the past Sony has sued individuals for violating their copyright by illegally sharing music. In 100% of the lawsuits Sony has enacted against pirates they have sought the maximum fines permitted under the law: $150,000 per instance of piracy.
That means they have sued individuals for over $4.5 million for sharing 30 songs, they said they were seeking maximum damages because copyright was important and it was necessary to seek maximum damages to dissuade other pirates. And they have maintained that really it ought to be $150,000 per person who downloaded the song illegally, which in some cases put the amount they were seeking from an individual into the billions.
So far, just in youtube views alone (for which Sony charged $6.50 each), The Interview has been seen by 77 million people.
By Sony's own legal reasoning, therefore, they owe Yoon Mi Rae an absolute minimum of $11,625,000,000,000.
Let them, I dont play playstation or xbox. I prefer the pc/nintendo console combo.Originally Posted by OverTheBelow
Hope you enjoy Microsoft dominating and thus exploiting the entire games console market, if so. You hate Sony more than EA? Comcast?
Repped.Originally Posted by Darkpriest667
In the past Sony has sued individuals for violating their copyright by illegally sharing music. In 100% of the lawsuits Sony has enacted against pirates they have sought the maximum fines permitted under the law: $150,000 per instance of piracy.
That means they have sued individuals for over $4.5 million for sharing 30 songs, they said they were seeking maximum damages because copyright was important and it was necessary to seek maximum damages to dissuade other pirates. And they have maintained that really it ought to be $150,000 per person who downloaded the song illegally, which in some cases put the amount they were seeking from an individual into the billions.
So far, just in youtube views alone (for which Sony charged $6.50 each), The Interview has been seen by 77 million people.
By Sony's own legal reasoning, therefore, they owe Yoon Mi Rae an absolute minimum of $11,625,000,000,000.
