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Only ran short testing with x264 as this was more to confirm VCCIN of 2.3 was needed.
OK got the RAM back to 2400. cpu-z still showing low bus speed though, should read just over 100 which would give a full 5 gigglehertz.Originally Posted by Sin0822
nice haha! Why not try the RAM out now?
Only ran short testing with x264 as this was more to confirm VCCIN of 2.3 was needed.
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(Not talking about you, fateswarm, I know you're just trying to get to the facts.)
Yeah. I've seen so much bull repeated on the internet about overclocking, and about Gigabyte boards in particular lately it's unreal. Not sure if there's some kind of anti-Gigabyte campaign going on or what.....but I've sure read a lot of crap lately even on OCN by people who apparently want to be taken seriously.Originally Posted by Sin0822
Nah in general vrms dont degrade they just fail
(Not talking about you, fateswarm, I know you're just trying to get to the facts.)
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lol, no, of course not. But I've seen some strange posts here and there lately about Gigabyte boards being "faulty" or "bad" and I think it was just rumor mongers.Originally Posted by fateswarm
You better not meant I'm on an anti-Gigabyte campaign considering I have one in the mail![smile.gif]()
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What I said in the DC owners thread bears repeating here:
If you are running your cache voltage on Auto, either check it under load or (probably better option) set it manually. Why?
After testing a recent BIOS for my Z97-UD5H I left the Vring on Auto, ran a quick stress test while manually checking voltages with my DMM and the Vring was 1.397v.
IMO that's a little high.
Fortunately the newer BIOS are finally scaling the uncore from 8x-40x so that's good.
Sin you wanted to know why not having a sensor for vring was disturbing to me? How about longevity? lol.
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If you are running your cache voltage on Auto, either check it under load or (probably better option) set it manually. Why?
After testing a recent BIOS for my Z97-UD5H I left the Vring on Auto, ran a quick stress test while manually checking voltages with my DMM and the Vring was 1.397v.
IMO that's a little high.
Fortunately the newer BIOS are finally scaling the uncore from 8x-40x so that's good.
Sin you wanted to know why not having a sensor for vring was disturbing to me? How about longevity? lol.
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Maybe..mine is 4770K. Gigabyte needs to adjust in the BIOS as I've seen this come and go.Originally Posted by fateswarm
Definitely. What I wrote in the club:
I'm not certain how it works (or not yet) as it's apparent on the text.
Also I suspect the "quirk" might be that it's treated like OC'ed 4770.
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OK, I was just going to ask you if your board showed Vring. The OC Force board does, not sure what other GB boards do. For sure the UD5H doesn't....which is strange since my Z87 UD5H does.Originally Posted by fateswarm
Thank the gods for multimeter support to be honest. I don't see that voltage on HWInfo.
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GTL just shows the setpoint in the BIOS, not the actual readout. The only way some of us can see Vring is with the meter.....
Stasio, Vring isn't shown for all Gigabyte Z97 boards....my Z87 does, my Z97 does not. I told you that a while back.....your OC board shows it but most of the rest don't.Originally Posted by stasio
Guys,
check with latest HWMonitor (is a bit offset....in +) or GTL.
GTL just shows the setpoint in the BIOS, not the actual readout. The only way some of us can see Vring is with the meter.....
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When I check Vring (&Vcore) with a meter when the pc is not under load, the voltages bounce around a lot and it's hard to get a good read but Vring seems considerably under the manual setpoint. But under load reading with a meter is much easier since the voltages are steadier.
As checked with a meter during load, Vring overshoots the manual setpoint a little bit but not too much.
On Auto setting Vring can scale up fairly high, at least 1.4v. Sin says that's no problem so I won't worry about it doing any damage.
Easytune and GTL show Vring setpoint, but not actual voltage for me.Originally Posted by stasio
So,EasyTune and GTL is only choice.atm...
When I check Vring (&Vcore) with a meter when the pc is not under load, the voltages bounce around a lot and it's hard to get a good read but Vring seems considerably under the manual setpoint. But under load reading with a meter is much easier since the voltages are steadier.
As checked with a meter during load, Vring overshoots the manual setpoint a little bit but not too much.
On Auto setting Vring can scale up fairly high, at least 1.4v. Sin says that's no problem so I won't worry about it doing any damage.
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http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/30530-latest-overclocking-programs-system-info-benchmarking-stability-tools.html
...or add newer linpack libs.
There are updated linpack libraries....not sure how updated IBT is though. Linx 0.6.5 is updated fairly often, I think it's up to 11.1.3 linpack. Anyway you can look over at TT Gigabyte forum.Originally Posted by Cyro999
Yea, that's how Linpack works.
The linpack in OCCT and IBT is out of date and doesn't run avx2 instructions for Haswell, so you might wanna run another test. Also double check that you have windows 7 service pack 1 installed, it's important for CPU performance and a lot of people with new builds/installs miss it!![thumb.gif]()
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/30530-latest-overclocking-programs-system-info-benchmarking-stability-tools.html
...or add newer linpack libs.
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BTW Stasio, I tried dropping the Vccn on my 4790K below 1.8 and it didn't work for me (Z87 UD5H). Something interesting I did see though was I could leave Vring on Auto with what would turn out to be too low vcore and the Vring would max at 1.45v, and fail P95 1344-1344. After bumping up the vcore some, the Vring would stay down around 1.05 on Auto.
Funny I never noticed that before, but I had the 4790K at first in my Z97 board and haven't spent as much time with it in my Z87 board.
Although my Z87 UD5H OC's every bit as good as my Z97 UD5H, I discovered I need a higher setpoint for Vcore to get the same eventual Vcore under load, because the Z87 has tighter voltage control than the Z97.....or at least that's how I interpret it.
Interesting. I only enable C6/C7 & leave the rest on Auto on both my Z87 & Z97 UD5H boards.. My vcore drops below .1V also.Originally Posted by stasio
I have enabled all C state (C3 & C6/7) and all other disabled (EIST & CIE).
This give me always max speed and min Vcore (not VID as CPU-Z display).
AIDA64 and HWiNFO displaying correct.
BTW Stasio, I tried dropping the Vccn on my 4790K below 1.8 and it didn't work for me (Z87 UD5H). Something interesting I did see though was I could leave Vring on Auto with what would turn out to be too low vcore and the Vring would max at 1.45v, and fail P95 1344-1344. After bumping up the vcore some, the Vring would stay down around 1.05 on Auto.
Funny I never noticed that before, but I had the 4790K at first in my Z97 board and haven't spent as much time with it in my Z87 board.
Although my Z87 UD5H OC's every bit as good as my Z97 UD5H, I discovered I need a higher setpoint for Vcore to get the same eventual Vcore under load, because the Z87 has tighter voltage control than the Z97.....or at least that's how I interpret it.
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I never was able to lower the Vccin when I had the 4790K on my Z97 board either so I'm guessing it's more a cpu thing.
The Z87 BIOS are definitely not fixed as far as Vring, since like I say I can still see up to 1.45v in some instances. But it's dependent on whether the Vcore is low enough for bsod under stress it seems.
If Vcore is too low, the Vring will increase to max, if Vcore is closer to "optimum", the Vring decreases to a more sane level.
Also seeing still too high Vcore with Z87/4790K when Vcore not manually set. (1.4v +)
Yes, from your post on TT. I think the Vccin is more dependent on the cpu than the board.....not sure.Originally Posted by stasio
You saw my post on TT forum with VCCIN 1.500V @4.9GHz ?
Maybe on Z87 series didn't works well.
2 months ago, I complain about leaving Vring on Auto.....giving me also 1.450V.
They (R&D) already fix this issue (Z97).
Very nice....try BIOS F7d (a;c) or X08...link in my sig.
I never was able to lower the Vccin when I had the 4790K on my Z97 board either so I'm guessing it's more a cpu thing.
The Z87 BIOS are definitely not fixed as far as Vring, since like I say I can still see up to 1.45v in some instances. But it's dependent on whether the Vcore is low enough for bsod under stress it seems.
If Vcore is too low, the Vring will increase to max, if Vcore is closer to "optimum", the Vring decreases to a more sane level.
Also seeing still too high Vcore with Z87/4790K when Vcore not manually set. (1.4v +)
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For quick and dirty settings I just use Tweak Launcher. Of course the settings aren't permanent, but any permanent changes can always be set on next boot.Originally Posted by ehume
I just ran into something interesting. My board came stock overclocking my CPU to 4.4GHz -- all cores.
Yesterday I OC'd my board with East Tune. In ET, I just nudged up the multiplier to 45 for all cores and left everything else alone. When I stressed it with OCCT and LinX, it ran fine, with Vcore reaching 1.21v on a VID of 1.19v.
Today, I went to BIOS and nudged up the multiplier to 4.5GHz, all cores. Running OCCT, the Vcore was something like 1.36v and the thing got too hot and the test shut down. I reset the BIOS to the optimized default 4.4GHz by loading the prior Profile I had saved. Then I went back to ET and nudged the multiplier back to 45. Yup, under stress the Vcore is 1.21v and the temps stay OK.
Bottom line: ET =/= BIOS. Lesson learned.
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Are you sure you are not confusing .04 with .4 ??
Every cpu is different. For mine, anything under 4.7 I can leave VRIN on Auto (1.7-1.8)...but for 4.8 I need 1.9 VRIN.Originally Posted by 3930sabertooth
Hi, Found this thread handy, I have a 4790k and a g1 board.
I'm not sure what to set the vrin voltage the bios say set it to .04v higher than the vcore so i set it to 1.25 as my vcore is 1.2 and it wouldn't boot. the auto setting was 1.7v so im leaving it at that although it seems high and not what people say it should be, on here its said to be .08v higher than vcore voltage. my cpu is a 4.5ghz.
Are you sure you are not confusing .04 with .4 ??
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