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Should we be monitoring voltage with a multimeter if possible in case there is voltage regulation degradation over the months/years? Is voltage regulation degradation a common phenomenon? It came to mind when I noticed people usually blade degradation only to chips.
No.... lol VRms don't degrade, only thing that might would be the capacitors, but the 10K ones used on these boards from GBT are top notch and you wont notice degradation even over like 5-10+ years of use, even if you do the voltage and current will remain the same since there is an active feedback loop for voltage, current, and temperature that is always maintained at needed values regardless of the state of the components in the VRM. If a VRm gets to the point it cannot do what it needs to do, it will fail entirely, like blow a MOSFET or capacitor. Degradation only is due to chips, but also sometimes the CMOS more importantly ME can corrupt and need to be re-flashed.
 

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Nah in general vrms dont degrade they just fail
Yeah. I've seen so much bull repeated on the internet about overclocking, and about Gigabyte boards in particular lately it's unreal. Not sure if there's some kind of anti-Gigabyte campaign going on or what.....but I've sure read a lot of crap lately even on OCN by people who apparently want to be taken seriously.
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(Not talking about you, fateswarm, I know you're just trying to get to the facts.)
 

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You better not meant I'm on an anti-Gigabyte campaign considering I have one in the mail
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lol, no, of course not. But I've seen some strange posts here and there lately about Gigabyte boards being "faulty" or "bad" and I think it was just rumor mongers.
 

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So there has been a lot of talks recently about getting WRs with Z97 motherboards, I just wanted to share the collection that the Z97X-SOC Force and Z97X-SOC Force LN2 have picked up over the last month or two.
4560MHz Memory WR(Z97X-SOC Force LN2, GBT team live at HOT comp.):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2559133_memory_clock_ddr3_sdram_2282.8_mhz
3DMark03 Single Card(Team AU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2545879_teamau_3dmark03_radeon_r9_290x_253373_marks
3DMark03 Dual Card(Team AU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2545864_teamau_3dmark03_3x_radeon_r9_290x_301064_marks
Aquamark Single Card(Sofos): http://hwbot.org/submission/2562963_sofos1990_aquamark_geforce_gtx_580_576442_marks
Aquamark Dual Card(Sofos):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2563185_sofos1990_aquamark_2x_geforce_gtx_780_ti_573521_marks
3DMark05 Dual Card(sofos):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2559673_sofos1990_3dmark05_2x_geforce_gtx_780_ti_73132_marks
3DMark05 Single Card(TeamAU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2545866_teamau_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_780_ti_74192_marks
3DMark06 Single Card(TeamAU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2545870_teamau_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_780_ti_57085_marks
3DMark2001SE Dual Card(Sofos):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2559779_sofos1990_3dmark2001_se_2x_geforce_gtx_580_177215_marks
3DMark2001SE Single Card(TeamAU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2545871_teamau_3dmark2001_se_geforce_gtx_780_ti_190478_marks
UNIGINE Heaven Triple Card(TeamAU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2545877_teamau_unigine_heaven___xtreme_preset_3x_radeon_r9_290x_9192.02_dx11_marks
UNIGINE Heaven Dual Card(TeamAU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2563093_teamau_unigine_heaven___xtreme_preset_2x_radeon_r9_290x_8616.29_dx11_marks
 

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So there has been a lot of talks recently about getting WRs with Z97 motherboards, I just wanted to share the collection that the Z97X-SOC Force and Z97X-SOC Force LN2 have picked up over the last month or two.
4560MHz Memory WR(Z97X-SOC Force LN2, GBT team live at HOT comp.):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2559133_memory_clock_ddr3_sdram_2282.8_mhz
3DMark03 Single Card(Team AU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2545879_teamau_3dmark03_radeon_r9_290x_253373_marks
3DMark03 Dual Card(Team AU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2545864_teamau_3dmark03_3x_radeon_r9_290x_301064_marks
Aquamark Single Card(Sofos): http://hwbot.org/submission/2562963_sofos1990_aquamark_geforce_gtx_580_576442_marks
Aquamark Dual Card(Sofos):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2563185_sofos1990_aquamark_2x_geforce_gtx_780_ti_573521_marks
3DMark05 Dual Card(sofos):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2559673_sofos1990_3dmark05_2x_geforce_gtx_780_ti_73132_marks
3DMark05 Single Card(TeamAU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2545866_teamau_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_780_ti_74192_marks
3DMark06 Single Card(TeamAU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2545870_teamau_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_780_ti_57085_marks
3DMark2001SE Dual Card(Sofos):eek:p
http://hwbot.org/submission/2559779_sofos1990_3dmark2001_se_2x_geforce_gtx_580_177215_marks
3DMark2001SE Single Card(TeamAU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2545871_teamau_3dmark2001_se_geforce_gtx_780_ti_190478_marks
UNIGINE Heaven Triple Card(TeamAU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2545877_teamau_unigine_heaven___xtreme_preset_3x_radeon_r9_290x_9192.02_dx11_marks
UNIGINE Heaven Dual Card(TeamAU):
http://hwbot.org/submission/2563093_teamau_unigine_heaven___xtreme_preset_2x_radeon_r9_290x_8616.29_dx11_marks
Awesomeness, thanks for sharing.
 

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You should add on the guide that max cpu overclocking can benefit from 8x memory. I helped me go from 5.0 to 5.1 on air http://valid.x86.fr/1i9g1v

Though I would be more impressed with very low voltages above 4.6g on high performance settings since it would have a real world benefit.

I currently run 4.6gig, 2400 memory, 40x ring for 24/7 on 1.24v/1.74v (1.20-1.22v had issues).
 

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You should add on the guide that max cpu overclocking can benefit from 8x memory. I helped me go from 5.0 to 5.1 on air http://valid.x86.fr/1i9g1v

Though I would be more impressed with very low voltages above 4.6g on high performance settings since it would have a real world benefit.

I currently run 4.6gig, 2400 memory, 40x ring for 24/7 on 1.24v/1.74v (1.20-1.22v had issues).
Not using more than 1.24vcore? I thought you liked higher clocks~
 

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I like 8GHz and I'd like to keep the cpu stable for at least a year on 24/7 settings. At 4.7 I get a big jump in voltage requirements. I don't want to go above 1.3v for 24/7 settings.
[email protected], [email protected] is pretty normal for a haswell chip in terms of scaling, i think 1.3v is a little low if you care about clocks (i used 1.32 for a year with some 1.265 and some 1.395 with air no delid, no noticable degradation)

if you're doing something to load your chip @100% for many hours, lower voltage is good but if not, you don't have to be so careful
 

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Dude, you're the new one with an actual Desktop chip now instead of just "speculating" and "guessing", as evident in your sig. Most of us have been playing around with Haswell for a long time. If you want to stay at 1.3v go ahead, hell.. if you want to stay with what ASUS do and limit their auto-OC SW to 1.28v then that's fine too. Many people have had Haswell's for a long time now and some of us know how and what they do.
 

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Speak for yourself. I want the chip to be stable for a year at least. Also, stop judging others' decisions like they are yours.
I'm not judging, was just dropping some info with some of my opinion mixed in
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As for the chip lasting years: You misinterpreted, i meant 4.7 running at 1.4v was pretty normal stability wise, not that it was normal for people to run those overclocks 24/7. The vast majority of chips (something like 86%) charted on OCN are at 45 and 46, and also below 1.4v
 

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Well, let me be blunt. The popular culture of the forum has mixed up what extreme overclockers do with what a 24/7 casual overclock should be for safety in the span of at least ~2 years one would want to use the chip. I have an Intel Engineer on video explicitly saying to go up to 10% above default Vcore (which checks out to be around 1.3v in many cases) and we have reports of degradation in a year (or less) from 1.35v onwards.
 

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Well, let me be blunt. The popular culture of the forum has mixed up what extreme overclockers do with what a 24/7 casual overclock should be for safety in the span of at least ~2 years one would want to use the chip. I have an Intel Engineer on video explicitly saying to go up to 10% above default Vcore (which checks out to be around 1.3v in many cases) and we have reports of degradation in a year (or less) from 1.35v onwards.
There's hundreds on OCN who are using 1.25-1.35v with no noticeable degradation in the last year, that's all i'm saying - maybe i have you mixed up with somebody else, but i thought you were asking for ~4.8-4.9ghz, which is why i mentioned it and found it odd to be using only 1.24vcore
 
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