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I'm interested in learning Linux. I own a ASUS V7000VA Notebook with P-M 2.0GH, 2GB DDR Ram, 80GB 7200RPM. I would like to use this laptop completely for my "learning journey". What Linux OS should I start out with? Since I want to expand my knowledge and advance in Linux, I'm not really looking for a easy OS to stick with...I want to learn and move on. I'm very experienced with Windows XP and has probably more than basic knowledge. Please advise, thanks!
 

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What ever OS you pick. I would advise getting a book from the libary about the linux CLi you could probably even learn from a Unix book. Since unix and commandline is very similer because linux is a clone of unix that shares no common code.

So learning how to use the commandline interface would give you a massive advantage to learning linux.

Distros. Maybe Ubuntu, OpenSuse, or Fedora.
 

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People would usually recommend you Ubuntu as the distro to start off with. But I find that Ubuntu isn't a suitable distro to actually start out learning linux on. It's just a distro for those who want an OS, not how to learn linux


Now, onward! Fedora Core, SuSE and Debian would all be top notch distro's to get your self started with. Fedora are due to release a new version of their distro on the 17th and I am releasing my own single CD re-distribution of it shortly after. Debian is a classic distro with good support for 99% of hardware and is highly regarded in the IT industry as one of the best linux distributions around. I suggest you download all of the ISO's for each distro. You may find that one suits you better than the other.

NOTE: If you are to download debian, download the Debian Etch Net Install CD. This is the most up to date (they say unstable, but its fine) and you don't have to download 10 CD's.
 

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I agree with going to the library and finding a book. This will help get you started and will provide you with the basics. I learned a lot from a FreeBSD book that I bought a while back. With some of the books there, they might come with CDs, its a little plus, even if they are older. You can follow along with the book then. Then after your confident in your skills and want to try something else, go for it.
 

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Ubuntu is fine to start with, just avoid the urge to use "cheats" like Automatix. Once you get used to stuff move on to a different distro; any one really. Definately check out a book to learn some basic stuff, otherwise it would be easy to get frustrated when things don't work as you expected, ruining your Linux experience. You can also check out the various communities for the different distros for some help (a very useful tool). Just be patient.
 

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Okay, so I have downloaded Fedora Core 5, SuSE 10.1 and Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. I've decided to try Ubunto first but it seems like I can't find the right drivers for the integrated graphics chip for my laptop...which is a ATI Mobility Radeon X700. I really would like to use Linux is a much higher resolution than 1280x1024...and in widescreen. Any help on that? Are the drivers supported in SuSE or Fedora? I find it easier for me to learn if I can have peace in mind that all my hardware is functioning. =)
 

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Okay, so I have downloaded Fedora Core 5, SuSE 10.1 and Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. I've decided to try Ubunto first but it seems like I can't find the right drivers for the integrated graphics chip for my laptop...which is a ATI Mobility Radeon X700. I really would like to use Linux is a much higher resolution than 1280x1024...and in widescreen. Any help on that? Are the drivers supported in SuSE or Fedora? I find it easier for me to learn if I can have peace in mind that all my hardware is functioning. =)

You should have at least 2D acceleration by default. To get 3D working you will have to take some extra steps. If running Ubuntu try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubu...allation_Guide (the first link works best for me). Keep in mind that ATI drivers suck under Linux, despite there recent advances (they used to be worse
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Example:
I recently installed my old 9600PRO on the office PC running Kubuntu. The same card that would run Source games with almost everything maxed out with no slowdowns under XP now can berely run simple 3D screensavers. GLXGears gives me about 100fps on average. Pathetic...
 
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You should have at least 2D acceleration by default. To get 3D working you will have to take some extra steps. If running Ubuntu try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubu...allation_Guide (the first link works best for me). Keep in mind that ATI drivers suck under Linux, despite there recent advances (they used to be worse
).

Example:
I recently installed my old 9600PRO on the office PC running Kubuntu. The same card that would run Source games with almost everything maxed out with no slowdowns under XP now can berely run simple 3D screensavers. GLXGears gives me about 100fps on average. Pathetic...

Having some trouble...after typing this command in Terminal, I get an error message. Or I think it's an error message.


Command: [email protected]:~$ sudo apt-get install /home/x/desktop/ati gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper

Error
Message: E: Couldn't find package

Help please?
 

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Having some trouble...after typing this command in Terminal, I get an error message. Or I think it's an error message.


Command: [email protected]:~$ sudo apt-get install /home/x/desktop/ati gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper

Error
Message: E: Couldn't find package

Help please?
Are you using the guide on the firts link? If so it should be:

sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-4.0 module-assistant build-essential debhelper

(you can type gcc4.0 instead of 3.4 since it's newer)
then:

fakeroot sh ./(locationoffile)/ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper
 

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Are you using the guide on the firts link? If so it should be:

sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-4.0 module-assistant build-essential debhelper

(you can type gcc4.0 instead of 3.4 since it's newer)
then:

fakeroot sh ./(locationoffile)/ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper

Yes, everything after ~$ is typed in. Where it says fakeroot, I point out to the directory where the driver file was saved, right? It seems like I did it right...
 

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Originally Posted by Melcar

Are you using the guide on the firts link? If so it should be:

sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-4.0 module-assistant build-essential debhelper

(you can type gcc4.0 instead of 3.4 since it's newer)
then:

fakeroot sh ./(locationoffile)/ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper


Oh! The fakeroot is supposed to be kept there...I thought it was some kind of variable where you have to replace. Silly me...

Question: What's dapper?
 

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Oh! The fakeroot is supposed to be kept there...I thought it was some kind of variable where you have to replace. Silly me...

Question: What's dapper?

Dapper is just the current Ubuntu version as in Ubuntu Dapper-Drake.
 
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