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txtmstrjoe

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Hello, OCN!

This thread is the Socket 939 Appreciation Club and Knowledgebase. thlnk3r and I have been thinking about starting this project for a long time now, and we've decided to finally share it with OCN. As the name indicates, it's a thread all about AMD's Socket 939 platform; it is meant to serve several purposes.

First, it's an informal gathering place for OCNers who have a true appreciation for AMD's classic S939 platform. So, anyone who has ever run a S939 Opteron, Athlon64 FX, Athlon64 X2, Athlon64, or even Sempron is welcome to join! In this thread, we'll hopefully have fun conversations about our beloved S939 CPUs, motherboards, and chipsets. We don't even have to restrict our talk to just about S939 while in here, too; all we ask is that we all have a true and mutual respect for each other.


Second, it's also designed to be a repository of S939 experiences. As time goes by, we hope this thread grows into an eminently useful knowledgebase that will help anyone who wants to use and overclock on a S939 system. We'll be including links to OCing techniques to this initial post imminently, once we get the ball rolling, but most of the really great stuff will come from YOU, as nothing is better than actual experience. I personally believe that there are some techniques and philosophies that hold true not just for S939, but for any other platform as well, so this will hopefully be a resource that can inspire solutions for other (non-S939) users too.

Finally, it's a gesture of goodwill. thlnk3r and I have been lucky to have been part of the OCN family for a significant time now, so this is one way for us to give back to the community.

How do you become part of this group? Simple: Just provide a CPU-Z link (preferable) or a CPU-Z screenshot of a S939 system, either in this thread or a PM to either me, thlnk3r, BlackOmega, Hueristic, or N2Gaming, and we'll add you to our roster as soon as possible.

Of course, everyone is welcome to contribute to this thread too.

So, thanks for everything! Let's all work together to make this good.


Roster (Click here for a more detailed list)

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Club Ex-Officers


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(All rigs marked with "¤" are S&M stable. See below.)

Socket 939 Nostalgics


  • AMABFKCUO: Opteron 185 @ 2.6 GHz
  • Animal Mother: Athlon64 X2 3800+
  • Anqt31: Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 3.0 GHz
  • Biomech: Athlon64 3700+ @ 3.0 GHz
  • Chuckclc: Athlon64 4000+
  • CravinR1: Athlon64 3200+ @ 2.6 GHz
  • DesertRat: Athlon64 X2 3800+ @ 2.4 GHz
  • Grim: Athlon64 3500+ @ 2.0 GHz
  • JoBlo69: Athlon64 3200+; Opteron 170
  • justin146: Opteron 165 Denmark @ 2.0 GHz
  • krazieaznboi: Opteron 165 @ 3.0 GHz
  • Mootsfox: Athlon64 3500+ @ 2.7 GHz; Opteron 170 @ 3.0 GHz
  • Mr Pink57: Opteron 146 @ 2.9 GHz
  • prosser13: Athlon64 3000+; (2x) Athlon64 3700+; Athlon64 X2 3800+; building an Opteron 146 presently
  • SerenityKill3r: Athlon64 X2 3800+ @ 3.0 GHz
  • sgtdisturbed47: Athlon64 X2 3800+
  • Sin100: Athlon64 X2 3200+ @ 2.6 GHz
  • Slappa: Athlon64 X2 4200+
  • Spamination: Opteron 185
  • vwgti: Opteron 170 Denmark @ 3.1 GHz

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Links to Recommended Stress Testing Programs and Overclocking Tools


*"S&M and rthdribl are presented "As is" with no warranty expressed or implied by txtmstrjoe, OCN, or any other party in this thread. If you run either program and it breaks a component in your computer, or makes you realize your Overclock is not stable, none of the aforementioned parties will be liable for your loss except yourself."
 
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I'd also like to join....two different processor CPUz validations can be found in my sig.

And where's the member list? I'd better be some sort of elder here mister!
 
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D'oh!

pioneer, you kill me!

Will add you to our roster immediately.


Same goes out to crashovride02.


A quick missive: If anybody's got any helpful links they would like to suggest, shoot me a PM and I'll see if it passes muster. I'll post the link(s) as soon as possible.

Thanks, y'all!
 
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Can't wait to see this thread just pwn the good ol' booberon thread! Happy to see you up and posting again txtmstrjoe!
 
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Members list updated.


pioneer, hopefully we can all make this club fun and informative! And thanks for your support.

(By the way, something is coming your way.
Check your mailbox in a couple of days...)
 
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Members list updated.


pioneer, hopefully we can all make this club fun and informative! And thanks for your support.

(By the way, something is coming your way.
Check your mailbox in a couple of days...)
Absolutely....will do!

And how come I'm just a "standard" member now? Grrrr....I'm going to file a complaint with the manager! I've been telling you guys we need a better 939 club.....jeez! What more do you need from me???

I'd also like to say.....maybe we should steal a few of the Grand Poobah's idea's in the old thread....such as the tech document links for the temperatures. Those were really handy. Just my $0.02.

Now...I gotta ship out that stupid freakin dead 7900GS XT back to XFX before I lose that $5 to yet another pack of cigarrettes. My last $5....RMA that stupid dead on arrival card.....or smokes? Think I choose RMA, its better for my health
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Absolutely....will do!

And how come I'm just a "standard" member now? Grrrr....I'm going to file a complaint with the manager! I've been telling you guys we need a better 939 club.....jeez! What more do you need from me???

I'd also like to say.....maybe we should steal a few of the Grand Poobah's idea's in the old thread....such as the tech document links for the temperatures. Those were really handy. Just my $0.02.

Now...I gotta ship out that stupid freakin dead 7900GS XT back to XFX before I lose that $5 to yet another pack of cigarrettes. My last $5....RMA that stupid dead on arrival card.....or smokes? Think I choose RMA, its better for my health
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You're hardly a "standard" member. ROFL

I'm all for having links to those tech docs added to our thread here.
 
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Thanks to The Duke for making us OFFICIAL.

And thanks to your links as well. I will add them to the first post in the thread.
 
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Alright, as I leave for lunch break here at work, here's a small topic to chew on for now.

Which S939 CPUs have you all actually used and OCed with? The more info you can provide, the more interesting reading it's going to be.
If you know your CPU's stepping code, it would be good to include that as well, just for general information purposes. Lastly, a comment or two about OCing your chip(s) would be most interesting as well.

I'll add my own contributions to this later on, when I have time towards the end of my work day.
 
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Slight overclock from 2.4ghz
stock cooling (looking for a TRUE or IFX-14 atm)
Hey nate,drop that HT down a smidgen. Your hitting that point that the chips just don't like, between 600-1000 is ideal.
 
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Alright, as I leave for lunch break here at work, here's a small topic to chew on for now.

Which S939 CPUs have you all actually used and OCed with? The more info you can provide, the more interesting reading it's going to be.
If you know your CPU's stepping code, it would be good to include that as well, just for general information purposes. Lastly, a comment or two about OCing your chip(s) would be most interesting as well.

I'll add my own contributions to this later on, when I have time towards the end of my work day.

Well...I'm sure I don't have as much hands on experience with 939 as you do txtmstrjoe. However the two you see linked in my sig are the only two I've had the pleasure of playing with. Here's the low down:

Both processors were overclocked in my sig rig (the only thing that has changed was RAM and GPU):

1st:
Athlon X2 3800+ Manchester (Unknown stepping)
Had the potential to reach 2.55GHz stable, and 2.94GHz suicide run. Stabily I was at 1.425v under load (1.45v idle) using the 166MHz RAM divider to make the RAM at 212.5MHz. This was with a 1GB kit of Corsair VS DDR400. This processor is still in use (starting tomorrow again, woot!) in an MSI K8N Neo4 SLI motherboard. I'm hoping she'll still reach the happy 2.55Ghz in said board with the exact same RAM kit (Thank you thlnk3r for said board!). I don't know the stepping of this processor because I lapped it before learning that steppings matter, lol. On the plus side though....it's mirror smooth! I'd also like to mention said CPU has hit a load temperature of 95*C for 10 minutes.....and she still lives! She loads at a happy 72*C at stock voltage with the Zalman in my sig rig....yes this chip runs unnaturally hot! Don't ask me why...I have no clue.

2nd:
Opteron 165 Toledo (LCBQE stepping)
Still running today. Current stable speed is 3.0GHz (333x9), and I've reached 3.27GHz on a suicide run with 1.65v. I'm using the 133MHz divider to put my RAM at 214.5MHz with my OCZ DDR500. With the Corsair Value RAM, I had to run the 100MHz divider to put the RAM at DDR333 speeds (212.5Mhz was the Corsair's max). This is by far my favorite of all 939 processors that I've ever even heard about. I'm at 3.0GHz (67% overclock) with only 1.375v under load (1.40v ish idle). That's barely above stock volts!!! My temperatures suck royally as of right now because my case is WAY too tight for the Zalman cooler....so the hot air pretty much just hangs out inside. I load at 66*C under a full Orthos priority 9 load. Just 1*C above thermal spec, I'm happy enough with that. I've had this processor up to 78*C on a suicide run...just for fun. These chips can take more of a beating than the 55*C fairy tale will have you believe.

3rd????
I've got another Opteron coming soon. Its supposed to be a naked Opty 148. We'll see how she does....probably on the MSI board since my Zalman more than likely won't mount to a naked chip. I won't know the stepping info on it however...because its naked. The original owner stated he's hit 2.8 with it....we'll just see about that!

Out of that list...I'd have to say that the X2 3800 was more fun to overclock with however. It just seemed more of a challenge to get that sucker up in the MHz. But boy it sure was a happy moment for me when I opened my Opteron 165 up, popped her in, put FSB to 333 and I was immediately at 3.0GHz and booting Windows! That was a happy day! I still can't believe I've almost had this rig for a year now!

And finally......
SOCKET 939 STILL LIVES ON!!! ITS NOT DEAD SUCKAS!! JUST SEE MY LINKS IN MY SIG!!!
 
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Pretty mega contribution, pioneer! Well done!


To be perfectly honest, pioneer was correct in saying that I've touched and played with quite a large sample size of Socket 939 CPUs. I've got a small collection of these chips, some of which are still sealed in their boxes, in fact; I've also sold many to clients who wanted/needed a S939 platform.

For now, though, I'll tell you about the chip in my gaming rig. It's an Opteron 170 @ 2.8GHz (the CPU referred to in this thread's first post), mounted in an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe. The stepping is LCB9E 0704TPMW; as far as this stepping is concerned, I've overclocked maybe as many as six or seven CPUs from this same batch (the only variation being in the final quartet of letters; the IMC versions and date of manufacture are the same, though), and many of them "read hot." What I mean is that they tend to return higher than expected core temperatures even at low-to-stock VCore.

This particular chip runs naked, i.e., sans its Integrated Heat Spreader. This wasn't the first CPU I had made topless, though, but by this time the operation only took maybe ten minutes at most. It's a safe operation if you're careful and if you know what you're doing.


It's a honey of a chip; the max I took it up to was 3.0GHz (300MHz x 10) @ 1.37ishV VCore; it booted into the OS, but froze almost immediately. Clearly this CPU needs a voltage bump if I'm ever to run it at higher than the 24/7 stable 2.8GHz I have it set to today. The max temperatures I've seen, which were observed in the summer when my bedroom transforms into a sauna, is maybe 57 degrees C on the hot core whilst running S&M v.1.90. My records indicate that the ambient temperature during the test was a toasty 97 degrees Fahrenheit...

I'm perfectly happy with my chip running at 2.8GHz. The RAM actually can run up to 280MHz (DDR560), but its ICs get really funky when running at higher than DDR520 (260MHz); at speeds higher than DDR520, the system becomes 3D unstable, so I had to back the RAM down by using a divider.

It's fully S&M v.1.90-stable. I've run the stability tests multiple times, and it's passed every single time as presently configured.
 
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Congratulations on your sweet overclock txtmstrjoe.

Unfortunately, my Opteron seems to return back higher than expected temperatures as well. Granted my case cooling absolutely sucks (no pun intended
), but my temperatures should be nowhere NEAR 66*C under load at only 1.375v. Go figure, we got ourselves a couple of hot overclockers (pun intended this time
). This is why the hot temperatures don't bother me so much...I know that there's NO WAY my chip is actually running at 66*C, I believe it to be a whacked out thermal sensor. Just my conspiracy theory on these boobterons!
 
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