AMD will be much cheaper and offer comparible perofrmance to an i7 in most games.
The ultimate upgrade path... Intel or AMD?
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Look at my sig rig, it's similar to the system you are talking about. I would honestly stay with i7 if i were you, as i've already checked into the AMD vs. Intel bit and decided that Intel would be my best way to go at the moment. The I7 920 currently beats out every AMD processor, and probably will for a little while to come. The 920 will last you a nice while, i'm not saying the the best AMD won't either, but if you are actually planning on upgrading in the future, i'd recommend intel.
It appears that AMD is going to be releasing processors inferior to Intel's for some time to come, in which case it would be best to have a socket 1366 board for upgrades, rather then AM3 or Intel's silly i5 socket.
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Then again, you will be saving money with the system Afrodisiac linked. Which if that's an issue to you, and you are ONLY interested in gaming, then i'd suggest his path.
In gaming you will notice a VERY small difference between the I7 or any of AMD's contending processors, and the processor really isn't too important when it comes to gaming. For the most part, the graphics card is going to bottleneck you more then the processor will. Only games like GTA4 will you notice a big difference between the AMD and i7 processors.
However, i've decided to stick with the i7 because i do more then just gaming, and simple every day tasks like Unzipping files / compressing files, or computer calculations will be done much quicker on an i7 processor.
Originally Posted by yann3804 Hey guys, I've been thinking about buying a new system... Reasons why I don't want to go with i5 1. Cheap upgrade path, dead end 2. 8x/8x Crossfire lane = fail compared to AMD and i7 3. Foxconn failure sockets, which would be included in any GA-P55-UD4P motherboard, the first that comes w/ 8x/8x and that has a good quality... -------- I plan on gaming but (casual gamer), I don't need the TOP OF THE TOP of the unleashed warrior graphic card that will run at 3823 frame per seconds, just something that is future proof and that has a good crossfire'ability. I have something like $1200 CAD for budget. i7 920 Gigabyte EX58-UD3R Coolermaster HAF 922 Mugen 2 Scythe Cooler LG GH24NS50 24X Super Multi SATA DVD Writer Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB G.SKILL F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 9-9-9-24 Triple Channel Memory Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 TX650/750W Corsair PSU --- OR AMD. I don't know what motherboard or whatsoever about AMD, but... if it's a better way to go, then why not? |
It appears that AMD is going to be releasing processors inferior to Intel's for some time to come, in which case it would be best to have a socket 1366 board for upgrades, rather then AM3 or Intel's silly i5 socket.
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Then again, you will be saving money with the system Afrodisiac linked. Which if that's an issue to you, and you are ONLY interested in gaming, then i'd suggest his path.
In gaming you will notice a VERY small difference between the I7 or any of AMD's contending processors, and the processor really isn't too important when it comes to gaming. For the most part, the graphics card is going to bottleneck you more then the processor will. Only games like GTA4 will you notice a big difference between the AMD and i7 processors.
However, i've decided to stick with the i7 because i do more then just gaming, and simple every day tasks like Unzipping files / compressing files, or computer calculations will be done much quicker on an i7 processor.
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Thank you for this well structured reply, but I would like to ask, since I plan on keeping this system for ATLEAST three years and am not really a person that will upgrade its motherboard every year, what is the best choice at the moment that will last me for that current amount of time?
EDIT : This question is also for you, Tyreland, but it looks like you already made your decision on that one.
Originally Posted by Afrodisiac Your fail list for i5 is pretty accurate in my opinion (since I share the same opinion). If the only thing that interests you is gaming, Phenom II would be my choice. A C3 X4 955 if you have the money to spend, or if not, an X3 720 for the best gaming bang for buck on the market. Since 8x/8x is fail for you, you would have to get a 790FX AM3 motherboard, and they are great boards. Moreoever, AMD is sticking with the AM3 socket for their next CPUs for an indefinite period of time, and Intel has just now announced a THIRD chipset for their new CPUs (in addition to P55 and X58), so AMD's AM3 socket is a much simpler future-proof option. To modify your original list to fit AMD, here's what I would pick: Phenom II X4 955 C3 MSI 790FX-GD70 Coolermaster HAF 922 Mugen 2 Scythe Cooler LG GH24NS50 24X Super Multi SATA DVD Writer Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB G.SKILL Ripjaw 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-2000 Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 TX650/750W Corsair PSU In addition, a huge advantage of Phenom II is that they run very cool. A Mugen 2 will handle the 955 at 3.8GHz but it would struggle with an i5 or i7 at 3.6 or more since those get much hotter. |
EDIT : This question is also for you, Tyreland, but it looks like you already made your decision on that one.
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The i7 is much better if you are looking to last 3 years with it, but i have no doubt that the AMD counterpart would be ABLE to, it just won't do as good of a job.
Since the i7 is much faster in general applications, and has the potential to be faster in games when more power hungry games do emerge.
Originally Posted by yann3804 Thank you for this well structured reply, but I would like to ask, since I plan on keeping this system for ATLEAST three years and am not really a person that will upgrade its motherboard every year, what is the best choice at the moment that will last me for that current amount of time? |
Since the i7 is much faster in general applications, and has the potential to be faster in games when more power hungry games do emerge.
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I also heard their Hexcore is going to be AM3?
Originally Posted by Afrodisiac AM3 for longevity. You can still run the AM2+ Phenom IIs on the first batch of AM2+ motherboards ever released (which was around 3 or 4 years ago). Intel has a habit of stopping CPU support as they go along; an E8400 will not work in one of the earlier LGA775 motherboards which are only meant for Pentium 4. The AM3 chipset will be just like AM2+. In 3 or 4 years when Phenom III (assuming it exists) comes out, there will be AM3 versions as well as AM4 versions and you will be able to use a Phenom III with the motherboard you bought today. |
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I busted my money for i7 route for i9 later
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I'm jealous of you
Originally Posted by Afrodisiac It most probably will be, yes. That's why I went AM3. |
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