I'm new to liquid and don't have packets of cash to spend.
Through some research I've noticed TT's liquid kits etc seem pretty good value for money; especially the Symphony Mini. I'd like to add the N.bridge and VGA blocks to the Symphony's loop, maybe with an extra pump tossed in for good measure.
I've noticed some bad press about TT's liquid hardware though, especially on this site. No specific problems are ever given. All the "official" reviews are good, but so many individuals bad-mouth TT.
Are they any good? Anyone using the symphony mini?
No. Far to many people have had the pump fail after a few weeks, or the the block crack and leak. Not to mention the bad performance from them.
You are much better off getting a decent aircooler for cheaper and will perform much better. A thermalright ultra extreme 120 is a much better option. Will completely own any TT water cooling
no, thermaltake is horrendous for watercooling, swiftech and coolIT are far superior, but even a good aircooler will be better than their kits, a custm built loop is where its at, they make good cases though
Kinda keen on the water cooling just for the cool value to be honest. Gonna steer clear of TT though. Looks like they're good on paper but don't have any staying power.
I'll have to admit, you can never compare a TT kit with something like a DangerDen kit or a SwiftTech. However, I got my kit for $80 and it comes with 2 radiators, 1 water block and a pump(with liquid and tubes). I have had it for about.. 4 months now and the pump and not failed nor has the tubing ever leaked. And although my temps are not "The Best" (29-33 Idle 49-55 Load *These Temps Are When My CPU was overclocked to 3.5GHz 65nm) for a $80 kit, IMHO TT kits are not bad. There may have been people with TT kits that have failed but like seriously.. its a $80 kit.
Any of the cheaper kits on this page (minus the H20-120, the Apogee Drive is best avoided IIRC) would be the best starting point. Yes, they are more expensive but doing WC 'on the cheap' is neither worth it, nor as much fun.
If you are limited by budget, go with top shelf air-cooling (TRUE, Noctua) or save your
till you can afford basic Swiftech set or something comparable in quality.
Remember, the OP is from South Africa (afaik) and probably has limited access to the parts you're all suggesting. If you can find any parts by Swiftech, that's a great place to start.
Originally Posted by afzsom
Remember, the OP is from South Africa (afaik) and probably has limited access to the parts you're all suggesting. If you can find any parts by Swiftech, that's a great place to start.
South Africa? That sounds like a very dry climate to me. And that means a bong cooler would work well for him
Originally Posted by ChielScape
*prepares for another 100-post "no"-thread*
Yes? lol j/k
No OP stay away from those kits. Do some research and prepare to spend some cash if you want to get good watercooling. Otherwise get a TRUE and lap it. A leak on your mobo is not something you want to experience. Atleast with contaminated(well used) water. And the risk of a leak is alot bigger if you use a budget loop.
Thermaltake doesn't insist on selling kits where nobody else can sell. Anyone can sell to anywhere that will allow their products. For a lot of countries, the cost of importing high end computing components outweighs the revenue that can be gotten. It's purely a business strategy. Most companies realize there is little to no market for their quality components worldwide, so they sell to their target market (mostly the US and Europe). However in other countries, where import taxes are high, the demand is lower, it's not worth it to a lot of companies.
Originally Posted by afzsom
Thermaltake doesn't insist on selling kits where nobody else can sell. Anyone can sell to anywhere that will allow their products. For a lot of countries, the cost of importing high end computing components outweighs the revenue that can be gotten. It's purely a business strategy. Most companies realize there is little to no market for their quality components worldwide, so they sell to their target market (mostly the US and Europe). However in other countries, where import taxes are high, the demand is lower, it's not worth it to a lot of companies.
This is where DIY comes in. A bong is a diy solution that works very well. So is a heater core. Aquarium pumps work well and both pumps and heater cores for automobiles are available world wide. Pipe and shower heads to make a bong are available world wide. Pipe to make a diy reservoir is available world wide. Plastic tube is available world wide. Hose clamps for the tube, and barbs for it are also available world wide.
The only thing that may be tricky is a water block. And that can also be done DIY.
The bottom line of what I am saying is, the only thing stopping somebody from building a wc computer in an isolated country is the person himself. If you are willing to build a diy wc set up, you could do one anywhere. If you are not, well that is on you.
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