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Thinking of switching to Intel from AMD...

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I have a quad core Phenom 2 right now and it does everything I need it to, but I am about to start building a new system with water cooling and am finding the Intel seems to offer a lot better performance and achieves higher clocks. I was going to get the newest AMD for $200, but am looking at maybe getting the i7-860 for $290.

I really just need someone who knows Intel's to justify why I should spend the extra and get a quad core 2.8 from Intel instead of a quad core 3.4 from AMD. As I have said, I want to water cool this setup so I am looking to overclock a lot but am in the dark when it comes to Intel.

Any advice is appreciated.
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you'll be getting dual threading per core which will help with triple channel memory and heavy rendering. Cash a concern ? If not then I'd suggest going with a nice i7 d0+x58 setup but you did post this in the Intel section so most of the responses may be supportive of Intel and I too as an AMD guy will recommend that Intel is worth it. Please keep in mind you are running an AM2 socket PII chip. While the AM3 chips may give you a bit more of performance in crease and DDR3 support in the future. GOod luck !
Do you need the extra raw power intel can dish out? Go for it.

Do you not? Seems like sort of a waste.
You migh twant to wait for the i9, if not, go with the first post.
if you have the money, buy an i7 D0 and good x58 mobo. Then when i9 comes out, hawk your i7 and get an i9. The current 3dmark 06 world record is set with an i9, if you are curious.

Right now amd 955/965 performance can be matched/beat with the i5/i7 8xx, which is much cheaper. i7 9xx still reigns supreme, but not by much, and not for much longer.
If you are building a gaming rig go with AMD. AMD will beat Intel i7 in most games.
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If you are building a gaming rig go with AMD. AMD will beat Intel i7 in most games.

Uh, got any benchmarks or graphs to go with that theory?
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The system I am running right now I am going to sell to a friend of mine when I get my new one together. I was wanting to upgrade to an AM3 chip for the DDR3 support and then get a 5870 with it and put the CPU and GPU in a water loop. I will use it primarily for gaming, but I would like to do some benchmarking also.

And I know I posted in the Intel section so a lot of people may be bias toward Intel, but I expected that and wanted to hear some responses as to why they think the i7 processors will outperform the Phenom II and why they seem to handle OC'ing better.

As far as the i9 is concerned, when is expected to release and with what kind of price tag? Money isn't a huge concern, but I don't want to have to sell a kidney or anything either..
You will need to sell both kidney's for an i9.If the Micro Center in Virgina isn't to far away you could save yourself $60 on that i7 860.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0317378
Well, you might want to upgrade to a solid AM3 board and DDR3 if you plan on having a more future-proof setup. Bulldozer should come out late next year and some are saying the difference should be the equivalent of a P4 to Core2 change.

If you want a cheap upgrade path now, look for one of those $200 i5/ mobo deals.
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...I expected that and wanted to hear some responses as to why they think the i7 processors will outperform the Phenom II and why they seem to handle OC'ing better.

As far as the i9 is concerned, when is expected to release and with what kind of price tag? Money isn't a huge concern, but I don't want to have to sell a kidney or anything either..

The i9 is Q1 of 2010, and the price tag is unknown, but it will most likely be over $500. If you have the money, great, but if you like your kidneys, you'd probably stick with the i7 920 until prices come down.

Check out this link. It starts on the gaming benchmark pages, but the entire review is packed with good info. And just a teeny tiny little astrisk, that review is done at stock clocks, so amd 965 = 3.6ghz in all tests, i7 920 = 2.66/2.8 in all tests. Dont want to try to sound like a fanboy making excuses but when you can oc the i7 to the same or higher than the 965 overclocks to... well it gets ugly for amd
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If you are building a gaming rig go with AMD. AMD will beat Intel i7 in most games.

not quite sure which planet this guy is living on.
-intel cpus perform better clock for clock
-they completely own the high end computing market
-are more future proof

while most games your playing will only utilize 2 cores, a 920 d0 will hit 4.0 fairly easily if not 3.8. it will rival ALL amd;s cpus that are out and will beat them easily in games utilizing 4 cores. newer games will be able to take advantage of all these threads
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The i9 is Q1 of 2010, and the price tag is unknown, but it will most likely be over $500. If you have the money, great, but if you like your kidneys, you'd probably stick with the i7 920 until prices come down.

Check out this link. It starts on the gaming benchmark pages, but the entire review is packed with good info. And just a teeny tiny little astrisk, that review is done at stock clocks, so amd 965 = 3.6ghz in all tests, i7 920 = 2.66/2.8 in all tests. Dont want to try to sound like a fanboy making excuses but when you can oc the i7 to the same or higher than the 965 overclocks to... well it gets ugly for amd


Your not a fanboy, but i7 design and quality must be better. If something works better, if must be better right? That's my opinion.

And for i9 it would be $500 for the lower ones, $1000~ for the higher end ones. They will probably price discriminate, because they profit more when they sell more stuff. They might just release high end cores first if there is a really high demand, and release the lower end ones later.
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simple answer to the OP. yes, it is worth it to upgrade to an i7 build. intels are far superior at the moment. grab an i7 920 and run it up to 4ghz and you will be happy.
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