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would there be any point in having a 8600gt for physx if i am running sli gtx 260 core 216s?
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It will help a little bit in games that use physx but other than that you really dont need it w/ those 2 cards. It just makes your setup look more awesome
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well sure, a 8600gt as a dedicated physx card with those two gtx 260's will rock man!
For games that use PhysX, yes, it will help.
The difference is barely a couple mroe FPS in games that support it.

I would just sell it put a little more money and get another 7200.12.

With another drive in Raid, your games will load faster..lol.
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I need more awesoness look on my rig.

going to add chipset water block next week


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I don't know what kind of performance you would get from an 8600GT as a PhysX card compared to what your GTX 260 is capable of, but I wouldnt expect any improvment with a dedicated 8600GT. I did some testing with my GTX 285 and an 8600GTS and the results were disappointing. With the GTX on its own I scored 16,384 in Vantage. But when I ran the GTX with the 8600GTS as a dedicated PhysX card, I scored 15,400. I looked at the results and the PhysX score was way down. So I think the GTX 285 on its own runs PhysX much better then offloading it to an 8600GTS.
okay, i will forget the idea, thanks for the info
While the GTX260 has many idle cores during Vantage PPU benchmark, it definately outshines the 8600GT, but since you have an SLi setup, you can utilize your 260's to full benefit without having to load them up with PhysX processing if you offload that to the 8600GT.. this might not add up to as many additional particles as the 260's are capable of rendering, but you will definately see a lot of PhysX going on, and this will not impact your framerate as much as running PhysX on your primary card while you are gaming.
I have a friend with 8800Ultra 3xSLI, and since he had a spare slot, he shoved in an 8600GT and was very happy with the results.. granted Vantage would score higher using 8800Ultra for PhysX, but during games where there weren't as many idle parts of the core, the 8600GT really helped out.
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While the GTX260 has many idle cores during Vantage PPU benchmark, it definately outshines the 8600GT, but since you have an SLi setup, you can utilize your 260's to full benefit without having to load them up with PhysX processing if you offload that to the 8600GT.. this might not add up to as many additional particles as the 260's are capable of rendering, but you will definately see a lot of PhysX going on, and this will not impact your framerate as much as running PhysX on your primary card while you are gaming.
I have a friend with 8800Ultra 3xSLI, and since he had a spare slot, he shoved in an 8600GT and was very happy with the results.. granted Vantage would score higher using 8800Ultra for PhysX, but during games where there weren't as many idle parts of the core, the 8600GT really helped out.

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good input, lol

so, so what exactly was the improvement for your friend? the physx quality along with a few fps?
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hoth, if you want to test it out I can send you my spare 8600GTS so you can give it a spin. I have a lifetime warranty on it from eVGA, so I'm not worried about you breaking it
. PM me if you want to test it.
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Well I tried using my old 8600gts as a dedicated physx card with my 2 8800gtx's and in the cryostasis tech demo and I did get a 3-4 fps boost. In mirrors edge, there was a boost but it wasn't too much, it just felt smoother during physx scenes.
itll help a little, yeah. go for it!
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good input, lol

so, so what exactly was the improvement for your friend? the physx quality along with a few fps?

Basically, when you enable PhysX on a single GPU or SLi setup, a portion of the core is utilized to process PhysX (where applicable). This results in reduced framerates compared to having PhysX disabled, as there is more on screen to render, and your GPU is doing two jobs at once, calculating physics and rendering a scene.

When offloading PhysX to an un-utilized core (ie, one that isn't doing the rendering), your primary/sli cores are freed up to process that scene with the physics calculations already performed. This can negate the impact of enabling PhysX, somewhat significantly in some cases (such as lower end single GPU or SLI setups).

So basically you get very similar final frame quality, but with slightly increased FPS. The easiest way to see the difference is to just try it out and pay attention to your framerates.
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I would love to test that card, possibly buy it if you are willing? that is depending on the performance increase.

I have an sli board on the way, and I still have to buy the second 260. I will be doing that as soon as my UD3P sells in the fs section.

How about I run benchmarks as well as in game tests on a single 260 c216, 260 with 8600gts physx, sli 260, and sli 260 with 8600gts physx. I will post what i find here in case it can help someone out.
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How about I run benchmarks as well as in game tests on a single 260 c216, 260 with 8600gts physx, sli 260, and sli 260 with 8600gts physx. I will post what i find here in case it can help someone out.

Sounds great. I'd love to see the results. It should also clear up any speculation once people have some statistics to poor over.
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Sounds great. I'd love to see the results. It should also clear up any speculation once people have some statistics to poor over.


Yeah I never tested it in games because I haven't had time with school. So I will send mine to hoth if he wants to do some testing.
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Yeah, i definitely want to do this.

so how should i do this? Run vantage on all the setups, then screen shots of the physx scenes to compare?
I say use the cryostasis tech demo. It pours on loads of physx. Just compare the results of the different runs.
EDIT: Also try to run mirrors edge or unreal tournament 3 with the physx pack and compare the fps you get in physx scenes. (I use the evga precision on screen display to check out the fps and temps, comes in really handy)
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