[Baby Jai]

Ok I have a 7970 and im just fed up with it. So here goes, I want to go SLI duals. I am running Rift and im tired of having 10fps in Conquest and in port scion, dont know if you play rift but its silly on the gpus. Anyways, so im looking to spend about 500-800 for upgrade(s), any help here is appreciated. http://valid.canardpc.com/2706199 is my pc, remember i want dual cards, ive seen a 3 set up but thats just silly. Thanks

Please use amazon when looking for cards, again THANK YOU

 

[rdr09]

Rift is cpu intensive game. if your cpu is at stock you might want to oc it and see if it helps.

 

[aznever]

you should clock it to 4.5 ghz then leave it running at the speed at all times. disable all your speed step or whatever amd uses.

http://valid.canardpc.com/2707283

GTX 670 PNY 330$ no rebates with reference design in case you want to go water cooling.

 

[Mad Pistol]

Either dual GTX 660 Ti or dual GTX 670.

MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition: $302.54 per card
-or-
EVGA GTX 660 Ti FTW Signature 2: $309.99 per card

for the GTX 670:

EVGA GTX 670: $374.99 per card

EDIT: updated post with Amazon links.

 

[Baby Jai]

i dont see where to edit ALL speed enhancements, in my bios i have Coll n Quiet disabled since im running an h80i set up, Turbo Mode disabled, how do you turn it to WHERE it stays at that speed at all times.

Is 2GB per card really good? Wouldnt I be better getting a 4gb single card then? The question is, IS IT the GPU or CPU for Rift specifially, I can run all crysis games on ULTRA settings with 60 fps. Heaven 2.5 Ultra, everything is pristine at a nasty 92 FPS max!

 

[rdr09]

here is a guide to oc your cpu . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1354110/amd-fx8350-overclocking-gigabyte-ga-990fxa-ud3-rev3-0-need-help-with-uefi-bios

if you are convinced that it is the gpu that's a problem in rift and finally decided to get a 680 or 670 make sure you get the 4GB.

 

[Mad Pistol]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Jai

i dont see where to edit ALL speed enhancements, in my bios i have Coll n Quiet disabled since im running an h80i set up, Turbo Mode disabled, how do you turn it to WHERE it stays at that speed at all times.

Is 2GB per card really good? Wouldnt I be better getting a 4gb single card then? The question is, IS IT the GPU or CPU for Rift specifially, I can run all crysis games on ULTRA settings with 60 fps. Heaven 2.5 Ultra, everything is pristine at a nasty 92 FPS max!

compared to a single HD 7970, both of those configurations that I listed above will wipe the floor with it.

However, I think it may be your CPU that's causing an issue. I highly doubt it's the GPU.

Also, I'm going to have to disagree with rdr09. 4GB of vram on Kepler cards is a waste. You get no performance improvement going from 2GB to 4GB, no matter what the situation. Anyone that has evidence that proves otherwise is welcome.

Stick to the 2GB cards.

 

[iMica]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Pistol

compared to a single HD 7970, both of those configurations that I listed above will wipe the floor with it.

However, I think it may be your CPU that's causing an issue. I highly doubt it's the GPU.

Also, I'm going to have to disagree with rdr09. 4GB of vram on Kepler cards is a waste. You get no performance improvement going from 2GB to 4GB, no matter what the situation. Anyone that has evidence that proves otherwise is welcome.

Stick to the 2GB cards.

And if you add a 2nd 7970 it would wipe the floor with boith those.

Your sig rig should run the game fine. Would OC the cpu though for sure if your using a H80.

 

[Mopar63]

I know people playing Rift on less CPU and GPU than that with no issues. Could it be internet issues?

 

[Mad Pistol]

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMica

And if you add a 2nd 7970 it would wipe the floor with boith those.

Your sig rig should run the game fine. Would OC the cpu though for sure if your using a H80.

True story, but the OP asked a different question, so I gave him the answer he was looking for.

 

[Frank33]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Pistol

True story, but the OP asked a different question, so I gave him the answer he was looking for.

Not because he ask a different question that he will get the correct anwser.

 

[Awsan]

With 800 dollars just get this:
Gigabyte Z77 Up4-TH
and
Intel i7 3770k

and

A good thermal paste

and

Another AMD 7970 (same model as yours)

Better than anything else!

 

[iMica]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Pistol

True story, but the OP asked a different question, so I gave him the answer he was looking for.

Haha good point. I find it odd hes getting low FPS in rift, doesn't look that demanding of a game.

 

[PDXMark]

I'm not sure why you are running your FX-3850 at 1.4GHz, but that CPU is 4GHz stock. If you have "P-State" and/or "Power Now" enabled in BIOS, your lowest power state will be 1.4GHz at 0.875Vcore(Pstate-#4). Judging by your CPU-Z validation voltage(which is usually not the same reading as what is found in BIOS, but close[+/-]), it looks like you validated in P-state#4. I'm not sure how to adjust AMD machines, so I'll assume if P-State is disabled your machine will run at the stock 4GHz. However, I don't know why your P-state would not scale up when using intensive programs like games, this is unless P-State is not that smart at reading program needs. You really shouldn't have to spend any money to get your machine working faster, just seems that you have improper BIOS and clock settings. If you could get that FX-8350 to run at 4GHz, you would realize you don't have to spend anything in regards to CPU or GPU and could buy yourself some SSD's with the money you save.

To recap;

-Disable
Cool'n Quiet; Thermal Throttling; Anything labelled "Power Now" and "P-state"

Raise CPU multiplier to 20(200MHz FSB x 20cycles = 4000MHz ~ 4GHz core speed)

Should be relatively stable with auto-voltages at stock core speed(4GHz), but that will have to be your next process, getting voltages stable.

Good luck, hope this little bit of info helps!

 

[cssorkinman]

Something is haywire, you should have no problems with rift.

Have you tried testing your system using OCCT? The graphs it generates may indicate what's going on with your rig. If its throttling , it will show up on the clockspeed and voltage charts.

Make sure to have any power management options in bios turned off. Not sure what they call it on that board but you want to disable any phase management.

 

[PDXMark]

So what BIOS firmware iteration are you using? I found this thread at another forum with close to your same build that makes a mention of early UEFI BIOS for you MB being garbage and that the latest updates have fixed the Throttling and OC capabilities. Here, have a read...

Your BIOS firmware may be the issue.

 

[DeadlyDNA]

Hello, i would like to share some experience i had with Rift not to long ago. I use 680GTX and Rift gave me problems with FPS as well.
My issue may not be the same as yours but i have a feeling it is very close. I found that the issue i dealt with was strictly Rift is poorly optimized like Age Of Conan was.

MY issue came down to this, in Towns with a large amount of players rendered on the screen the FPS would drop to unplayable levels.
You can test this issue by running all settings low and lowest resolution you can set. It should still drop to really low levels when you have more alot of players in view. Also, check your GPU utilization during low FPS and i bet yours will be like mine was like 20-50% GPU usage. when i am out questing or what not its alot higher and keeps my FPS well up there.

I found a post back then that said it was related to the amount of players rendered on the screen and it made sense because i would test in a low population area and FPS would always stay high. Much as i hate to say it, Rift is horribly optimized right now, or was when i played and its the reason i stopped.

So many good MMO's out there have such horrible optimizations or lack thereof...

 

[Baby Jai]

yeah im having the same issue as well

 

[Baby Jai]

ok so something was wrong with that cpu id http://valid.canardpc.com/2707384 is the latest one

and for some reason in the system settings in contol panel says 4.52 wonder whats going on

 

[Baby Jai]

Quote:

Originally Posted by PDXMark

I'm not sure why you are running your FX-3850 at 1.4GHz, but that CPU is 4GHz stock. If you have "P-State" and/or "Power Now" enabled in BIOS, your lowest power state will be 1.4GHz at 0.875Vcore(Pstate-#4). Judging by your CPU-Z validation voltage(which is usually not the same reading as what is found in BIOS, but close[+/-]), it looks like you validated in P-state#4. I'm not sure how to adjust AMD machines, so I'll assume if P-State is disabled your machine will run at the stock 4GHz. However, I don't know why your P-state would not scale up when using intensive programs like games, this is unless P-State is not that smart at reading program needs. You really shouldn't have to spend any money to get your machine working faster, just seems that you have improper BIOS and clock settings. If you could get that FX-8350 to run at 4GHz, you would realize you don't have to spend anything in regards to CPU or GPU and could buy yourself some SSD's with the money you save.

To recap;

-Disable
Cool'n Quiet; Thermal Throttling; Anything labelled "Power Now" and "P-state"

Raise CPU multiplier to 20(200MHz FSB x 20cycles = 4000MHz ~ 4GHz core speed)

Should be relatively stable with auto-voltages at stock core speed(4GHz), but that will have to be your next process, getting voltages stable.

Good luck, hope this little bit of info helps!

ok got it to multiplies to 4.5 which read right in control panel but cpu I'd is saying its still at 4.1 ghz as I posted the CPU id