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Today I got my P180B, and while installation, I found out that the black box which was supposed to be loaded with screws and silicon washers for hard disks was empty. It made me very pissed off for sometime because my tempo was interrupted. <br />
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I'll call the supplier tomorrow and ask about the matter. In the meantime, would one of you folks be kind enough and tell me what sort of screws I would need? If the matter will take time then I will go to the hardware shop and buy the screws.<br />
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One more thing: I have OCZ GameXStream 700W PS. Should I install it upward (fan up) direction or downward (fan down) direction.<br />
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OOppss...seems that I posted in wrong section.
 

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Fan should be downwards, helps air flow.<br />
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But if you have room above your PSU i would still have the fan down, just so it can remove some of the hot air out of your case
 

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Just scroll down this page and you will find several..Kinda expensive but here you go....<a href="http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=237&zenid=20791a9c7bea2105a82b8e84f1c40129" target="_blank">Hardware : Performance-PCs.com, ... sleeve it and they will come</a>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Fan should be downwards, helps air flow.<br />
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But if you have room above your PSU i would still have the fan down, just so it can remove some of the hot air out of your case</div>

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Except in the P180b, the PSU mounts on the bottom of the case. Mounting it with the fan side down would starve the PSU of air to cool itself and do little to pull hot air out of the case.<br />
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The fan on a PSU should always be facing the inside of the case, so in this case, you want the an pointing up. <img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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mad news on the missing screws, someone was asleep on the assembly line <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Fan should be downwards, helps air flow.<br />
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But if you have room above your PSU i would still have the fan down, just so it can remove some of the hot air out of your case</div>

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</div>Sorry, Thumper got right. The PSU is at the bottom of the case and sits on a "pedestal". Fan needs to be oriented upward. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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Sorry to hear about the missing hardware...what a pain in the arse! <img src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Mad" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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Essentially the basics are required:<br />
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9- standoffs<br />
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<div style="font-style:italic">Except in the P180b, the PSU mounts on the bottom of the case. Mounting it with the fan side down would starve the PSU of air to cool itself and do little to pull hot air out of the case.<br />
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The fan on a PSU should always be facing the inside of the case, so in this case, you want the an pointing up. <img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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mad news on the missing screws, someone was asleep on the assembly line <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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</div>I placed my Seasonic 600 facing down. If you examine the PSU pedestal on the P180 - I would say there is equal amount of space provided above the pedestal as below it (say about 3/4 of an inch) with grill air exits provided both top and bottom. Facing down means less possible heat reaching the MOBO area. <br />
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I did modify the thermal chamber by stealing a mod idea from Chozart:<br />
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I removed the middle 120 fan and placed it in the upper chamber's middle HDD front area - so it would act as an air intake. Then I purchased a smaller 90 fan and placed it in the front of my Barracuda drives sitting in the bottom chamber HD slots. So airflow is going from front to back to the PSU and out.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Except in the P180b, the PSU mounts on the bottom of the case. Mounting it with the fan side down would starve the PSU of air to cool itself and do little to pull hot air out of the case.<br />
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The fan on a PSU should always be facing the inside of the case, so in this case, you want the an pointing up. <img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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mad news on the missing screws, someone was asleep on the assembly line <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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</div>Unless he modds the floor of the case so the PS can draw from the bottm and get it's own fresh air <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Stick Out Tongue" class="inlineimg" /> but that would defeat the lower section air flow design!
 

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Nice idea Duke. but as you stated, it would be like re-inventing the wheel.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Unless he modds the floor of the case so the PS can draw from the bottm and get it's own fresh air <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Stick Out Tongue" class="inlineimg" /> but that would defeat the lower section air flow design!</div>

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</div>As far as I can tell, there is room under the pedestal that a PSU can draw air. About the same amount of room as above the pedestal. Am I missing something crucial? <img src="/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="EEK!" class="inlineimg" />
 

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Thanks for the tip, I'll go check mine :S<br />
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(PS: I got P180B also with OCZ 700W GameXStream also lol)
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">As far as I can tell, there is room under the pedestal that a PSU can draw air. About the same amount of room as above the pedestal. Am I missing something crucial? <img src="/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="EEK!" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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</div>HHmmmm, upon closer look at the case photos on Newegg, you may be right. It appears the panel seperating the lower section is solid (originally thought it was open at the PSU).....since this section is isolated, outside of Duke's idea to mod a hole (covered with mesh or a grill) under the PSU, it looks like either way would work about the same. <img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" />
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">HHmmmm, upon closer look at the case photos on Newegg, you may be right. It appears the panel seperating the lower section is solid (originally thought it was open at the PSU).....since this section is isolated, outside of Duke's idea to mod a hole (covered with mesh or a grill) under the PSU, it looks like either way would work about the same. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Thumb"></div>
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I own the case. I mean, having worked with it about two months ago installing the Seasonic I would be aware if there weren't a gap. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/eek.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="EEK!"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"> But I had the same exact concern when installing my PSU - actually my main concern was which way the Seasonic was suppose to go in.<br><br>
Anyways - there definitely is space at the bottom - the pedestal is open at the top and bottom - and both top and bottom back plates have grills so air can flow whichever direction you place your PSU. I still think placing it normally as you would if it were at the top of your case is the best way to go.
 
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