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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-announces-delay-to-7nm-processors-now-one-year-behind-expectations

Intel announced today in its Q2 2020 earnings release that it has now delayed the rollout of its 7nm CPUs by six months relative to its previously-planned release date. Intel's press release also says that yields for its 7nm process are now twelve months behind the company's internal targets, meaning the company isn't currently capable of producing its 7nm process in an economically viable way.
 

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Here comes 14nm++++++++++++++++
 
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They have more than enough financial grunt to have this problem figured out by now. Seriously. Makes me think there's more going on here than we are seeing reported.
 

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They have more than enough financial grunt to have this problem figured out by now. Seriously. Makes me think there's more going on here than we are seeing reported.
Its a density issue i reckon, 10nm had a similar issue (NOT THE SAME).


But this headline is misleading, it isn't "broken" but there are some issues, the engineers have a lot to answer for, billions wasted and years gone by....with 2 horrible nodes in a row!
 

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They have more than enough financial grunt to have this problem figured out by now. Seriously. Makes me think there's more going on here than we are seeing reported.
all the money in the world can't fix upper management induced incompetency.


incompetent managers hire incompetent employees, incompetent employees create incompetent work, and incompetent work causes delays.



quite normal really, it tells us where Intel is in its life cycle. Think of it like the championship winning college football team that's now having nothing but back to back losing seasons.


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side note - You suck at life if you don't properly note your work in your tickets, specially if said tickets are one offs.
 

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Watch the stock speculators go Intel bankruptcy rumors soon now. Intel is rip to be manipulated by the so-called stock manipulators on the internet that make money by making rumors. Usually they target companies who have known internal issues and even if they know nothing, they appear like insiders.
 

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all the money in the world can't fix upper management induced incompetency.


incompetent managers hire incompetent employees, incompetent employees create incompetent work, and incompetent work causes delays.



quite normal really, it tells us where Intel is in its life cycle. Think of it like the championship winning college football team that's now having nothing but back to back losing seasons.


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side note - You suck at life if you don't properly note your work in your tickets, specially if said tickets are one offs.
When I was in school we had a saying for this - Garbage in, garbage out.

Not a whole lot different to what's going on across a bunch of different industries.
 

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Wow. Intel really did not need this. Are they trying to take density too far or is it really entirely due to a breakdown of management and culture? We have seen hints of management culture issues at Intel for a while now but at this point their 7nm better be great once they get it working or Intel is going to be in (more) trouble.

Maximizing short term profits is the enemy of long term quality. Once your management is thinking at most one year ahead basic development suffers. It is hard to fix too, once you have middle management thinking short term for a while getting the culture to think long term again takes a lot of effort and organizational shakeup.
 

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Intel's 7nm is the Star Citizen of CPU's.
 
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Yikes. Who would have thought Intel would be here several years ago. It seems competition and rampant management and culture issues within Intel are catching up to them and their relative short-term thinking with regards to what they were doing and putting out during the last decade.
 

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Wow. Intel really did not need this. Are they trying to take density too far or is it really entirely due to a breakdown of management and culture? We have seen hints of management culture issues at Intel for a while now but at this point their 7nm better be great once they get it working or Intel is going to be in (more) trouble.

Maximizing short term profits is the enemy of long term quality. Once your management is thinking at most one year ahead basic development suffers. It is hard to fix too, once you have middle management thinking short term for a while getting the culture to think long term again takes a lot of effort and organizational shakeup.

we should've seen this coming with the departure of Jim Keller.


Intel's 7nm is the Star Citizen of CPU's.

not very apt tbh.


you can give CIG money for Star Citizen, and can "play" a few parts of Star Citizen.



you can't give intel money for 7nm, and no one's playing playing 7nm, even in part.
 

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we should've seen this coming with the departure of Jim Keller.
One could have read into that in either way given his history.
 

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Wow. Intel really did not need this. Are they trying to take density too far or is it really entirely due to a breakdown of management and culture? We have seen hints of management culture issues at Intel for a while now but at this point their 7nm better be great once they get it working or Intel is going to be in (more) trouble.

Maximizing short term profits is the enemy of long term quality. Once your management is thinking at most one year ahead basic development suffers. It is hard to fix too, once you have middle management thinking short term for a while getting the culture to think long term again takes a lot of effort and organizational shakeup.
Honestly, that is not surprising given how much trouble EUV has given TSMC and Samsung. Intel's 7nm is their first try at EUV so it doesn't like they avoided initial trouble either. Intel said their first chips based on 7nm will be on late 2022/early 2023. They must hit that target or they will be in some deep trouble.
Alternatively, they can seek TSMC/Samsung for 2022-23 CPUs while fixing their own fab problems.
 

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Intel couldn't execute a die shrink? Shocking, really.
 

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Looks like their stock took a hit with the news.
Doubt it's due to this considering they announced the highest data center earnings since 2018. If you look the entire market is down.
 

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Yikes. Who would have thought Intel would be here several years ago. It seems competition and rampant management and culture issues within Intel are catching up to them and their relative short-term thinking with regards to what they were doing and putting out during the last decade.
Those of us who bared witness to the flying circus that was Intel in the late P3 to the end of Pentium D days?
 

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Honestly, that is not surprising given how much trouble EUV has given TSMC and Samsung. Intel's 7nm is their first try at EUV so it doesn't like they avoided initial trouble either. Intel said their first chips based on 7nm will be on late 2022/early 2023. They must hit that target or they will be in some deep trouble.
Alternatively, they can seek TSMC/Samsung for 2022-23 CPUs while fixing their own fab problems.
For Pointe Vechio or do you mean for their processors? If it's the latter you refer to, that may prove "dangerous" to their stock. For over 20 years, Intel has boasted about why they're number one. Hint: It has to do with them running their own fabs in house. And how they are at the forefront of everything chip related. It'd be a blow to their market capital and give financial vultures a reason to manipulate them.
 

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Looks like their stock took a hit with the news.
AMD monopoly coming folks. The news is pretty bad on ARM Side too. Softbank appears to have liquidity issues too if it has to sell its major holdings in Japan Softbank Mobile Carrier, Sprint and its Alibaba shares. It's already left the Alibaba board seat it held. That Vision Fund 1 & 2 are looking very bad with Weworks and oyo likely to go under. Even its investment in all those car riding and food delivery companies are looking very bad. Better hope the rumors of Nvidia buying ARM are true.
 

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Intel still making money even with garbage products.
 
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