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[Toms] OCZ Says Its New Vertex SSD Beats Intel's X25-E

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OCZ's Vertex series of solid-state drives has started shipping. That doesn't sound like big news at first, since the company previously announced the birth of the drives at the end of last year. However, if OCZs claims hold up to spec, their Vertex drives will rival the very best of the consumer SSDs, Intel's X25-M and X25-E drives.

The delay on shipping the SSDs came as a result of firmware updates, and OCZ now boasts sequential read and write speeds of 250 MB/s and 240 MB/s respectively.

How's that? OCZ has slapped a 64 MB data buffer on the two high-capacity versions of these MLC-based SSDs: the 120 GB and 250 GB editions. This is in addition to the Indilinx Barefoot controller that powers the data transfer for all drives in the Vertex line, which can address four flash channels at the same time. Intel's top drives can hit ten at once, so it will be interesting to see how this shoot-out amongst these high-performers plays out--cache size versus channels. Of course, firmware tweaking plays into the picture as well, which begs the question--will OCZ's drives be affected by similar performance issues as Intel's alleged troubles?

Don't expect to see similar performance amongst all drives in the Vertex line. The two smaller-capacity drives in the four-drive Vertex series, a 30 GB and 60 GB version, both come with a 32MB cache. They'll be priced at $200 or below, with the 120 GB and 250 GB Vertex drives shipping for $400 and $830 respectively.
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I'm hoping Microsoft works plenty of optimizations for these into Windows 7. While the prices are still out of reach for most of us, the price per GB seems to be coming down fast, all while the drives themselves are getting faster.
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Oh Hellss yess. If they can offer speeds equal to or greater than the X25-E at less cost, that would tempt me big time.
Still MLC though, but poop happens.
Sweet, but I wonder if OCZ is still using that crappy JMicron JMF602 controller. 120GB Vertex in RAID0 anyone?
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Sweet, but I wonder if OCZ is still using that crappy JMicron JMF602 controller. 120GB Vertex in RAID0 anyone?

I believe they stopped using them after the fiasco with the Core series, but I have no source to back that up.
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their Apex line > Vertex line right? I'm still trying to pick out a SSD
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their Apex line > Vertex line right? I'm still trying to pick out a SSD



doesn't look like it.

Also, for 800 bucks, two of the vertex 128gb SSDs in raid0 might be unbeatable.
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very nice, still outta my price range, i just use too much space, but very nice for a fast booting OS drive.
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Sweet, but I wonder if OCZ is still using that crappy JMicron JMF602 controller. 120GB Vertex in RAID0 anyone?

Didn't even read the quote, let alone the article, this place is going down the inter-tubes


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Indilinx Barefoot controller

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Start putting a 5 year warranty minimum on these drives and then I'll pay your ridiculous asking prices.
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Start putting a 5 year warranty minimum on these drives and then I'll pay your ridiculous asking prices.
Amen. We can't all afford to replace these things...
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Amen. We can't all afford to replace these things...
SSDs are touted as more reliable, yet HDDs have 5-year warranties on them and SSDs have 2-year warranties (3-year if you go with Intel). If they are more reliable, then putting warranties on them that are at least as good as those of their HDD counterparts should not be a problem. 1.5 million hours MTBF means jack crap if you can't back it up with a warranty. You might as well be crossing your fingers openly when telling me that the MTBF is that high as far as I'm concerned.
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:\\ Now when they can create an SSD that doesn't have a severely limited amount of write cycles before it's fubar, they will impress me.

Yeah, it's fast, but what's the point if the damn thing wears out in 6 months to a year? Gimme some platters any day, I'll lol at the SSD users that didn't buy platter drives to back up on when their rig goes down.
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Sweet, but I wonder if OCZ is still using that crappy JMicron JMF602 controller. 120GB Vertex in RAID0 anyone?
No more jmicron, Indilinx Barefoot controller.
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SSDs are touted as more reliable, yet HDDs have 5-year warranties on them and SSDs have 2-year warranties (3-year if you go with Intel). If they are more reliable, then putting warranties on them that are at least as good as those of their HDD counterparts should not be a problem. 1.5 million hours MTBF means jack crap if you can't back it up with a warranty. You might as well be crossing your fingers openly when telling me that the MTBF is that high as far as I'm concerned.

It's new tech...there needs to be headroom for faults...Reason why HDD have a 5-year warranty is because they have been out so long and have gone through many revisions over time.
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It's new tech...there needs to be headroom for faults...Reason why HDD have a 5-year warranty is because they have been out so long and have gone through many revisions over time.

A 1.5 million hour MTBF rate constitutes more than a decade of continuous use. If they advertise that much reliability, then the warranty should be there to back it up. Headroom has nothing to do with it.
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A 1.5 million hour MTBF rate constitutes more than a decade of continuous use. If they advertise that much reliability, then the warranty should be there to back it up. Headroom has nothing to do with it.

interesting.. out of all the values i have considered before slapping down the cash on an SSD (or a few) i haven't ever really thought of the warranty..

its a great point. one that should be highly considered!

although i have taken a different route, (perc 5i..) one day my perc 5i will be filled with cheap discounted ssd's
one day!
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Kind of off topic, but when are we going to start seeing either cases with 2.5" mounting for these or 3.5" versions?
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A 1.5 million hour MTBF rate constitutes more than a decade of continuous use. If they advertise that much reliability, then the warranty should be there to back it up. Headroom has nothing to do with it.

Well...your best bet is to just ask them directly and let us know what you find out since neither of us have "solid" proof. There is no point in arguing over speculation.
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: Now when they can create an SSD that doesn't have a severely limited amount of write cycles before it's fubar, they will impress me.

Yeah, it's fast, but what's the point if the damn thing wears out in 6 months to a year? Gimme some platters any day, I'll lol at the SSD users that didn't buy platter drives to back up on when their rig goes down.


Did you see the conversation about MTBF? Your statements are ridiculous.
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