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<span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"><span style="font-size:medium;">I'm wanting to build a beast that will last for a good while. I'm not rich so I can't afford the latest and greatest every other month.</span></span><br><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"><span style="font-size:medium;">I was just about to build an AMD rig a while back when I heard news about the Conroe which is now called Core 2 Duo. Also hearing news of DX-10, Vista and graphic cards supporting this I decided to just wait.</span></span><br><br><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"><span style="font-size:medium;">I was planning on the X6800 but now with the quad at hand should I get one of these instead? I know the quad will not make any difference with current games but I'd hate to spend a grand on a X6800 now and latter wish I'd gotten a quad.</span></span><br><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"><span style="font-size:medium;">For a MB I'm looking at getting one with nForce 6 as they should be out soon. So I plan on an SLi setup using the Nvidia 8 series cards that should already be out when I make my purchase.</span></span><br><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"><span style="font-size:medium;">For ram I want what's best for a really good overclock. Is <a href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145044" target="_blank">this</a> really worth the money or should I just go with DDR2-800 or somewhere in between? Should I go with 2 sticks of 1gig or 4 sticks? Is there such a thing as 2gig sticks or plans for any. I know 2 sticks overclock better than 4 right?</span></span><br><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"><span style="font-size:medium;">For cooling I'm divided over water or Phase Change. Which ever I'll be cooling the CPUs as well. I think the Phase change will be more quiet and also provide for a higher overclock but at a much higher price than water.</span></span><br><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"><span style="font-size:medium;">Some of the other things I'm looking at is a 24" wide screen LCD Monitor, Lian Li <a href="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811112119" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16811112119</a> case, it's big, well constructed and has clean looks.</span></span><br><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"><span style="font-size:medium;">I also plan on a couple 15.000 rpm HDs, DVD dual layer etc. etc. blah, blah, blah. You get the idea......</span></span><br><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"><span style="font-size:medium;">Anyone with good advise? Thanks in advance.</span></span>
 

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Overkill.... way overkill.<br />
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The performance difference between a E6700 rig with DDR2 800 and dual graphics and a monster rig like that is not that great (ok, quad core might be worth it, but probably not the 1k top model that is the first one to appear.. I'd wait for the cheaper ones in the first quarter of 2007).<br />
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I don't like the Dominators too much, I think the DDR2 1066 (PC8500) G.Skill is a better choice, given its insane timings.<br />
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15k HDDs... planning SCSI then? That's a ton of money.<br />
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I thought you said you're not rich.... this is like a 7.5k rig (assuming you get a 30 inch monitor, which is highly recommended with this type or rig)<br />
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And the newest revision of the 5xx chipset is not even out yet.... when do you expect the 6 series? haven't heard them coming soon yet.<br />
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Do realize that the Lian Li case is one of those with an 'upside down' mounted motherboard, which might cause trouble with those boards that have a heatpipe cooling solution.<br />
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Finally, I would not get the first gen. DX10 cards. I would wait until they ease out all the bugs out of DX10, both hardware and software
 
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Ahhh dude man, I'm in the same boat. Seems like almost everyday there is more info hitting the stands about the new goodies that are just around the corner.<br />
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Also, you know alot of these things will be real high at first.<br />
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I personally, am trying to get ramped up and ready while I wait....getting new raptors, LCD, case, psu, water cooling, etc. Alot of this stuff I can still use in my old pc till I have everything together for the new.<br />
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I will go ahead and get Vista when my new pc is ready. Why buy XP then upgrade later? So, on somethings I'm just going to bite the bullet now. <br />
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Good Luck
 

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Wait for directx 10 for sure, and i'd go with a core 2 duo before a quad.<br />
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Reason being is I think gaming is gonna be better on a x6800 than a quad core for the first half of 07, until they improve quad cores.<br />
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I'm getting a x6900 and 2x G80s for my rig.<br />
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You say you want G80 in SLI, theres no single PSU on the market atm that can handle that. Even the 1000W PSUs don't have enough amps.<br />
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I'm waiting until late november or even early december to start my build, I'd recommend you do the same.
 

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I would rather buy some hookers for that price lol
 

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Also.. don't go with the 15,000 RPMs... its such a big waste of money IMHO.<br />
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Get 2 Raptors and put them in Raid 0.
 

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Just get an E6700. That CPU overclocks like mad, reaching speeds of the X6800/X6900 easily, and much much more. I truly see no reason to drop a grand on a CPU while you can have close to the same performance for half the price.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">I would rather buy some hookers for that price lol</div>

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LMAO, but when your all done all you have is a empty wallet and a wet dream left!
 

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Like chozart said, a little overkill I think. Unless you have money to burn and toss away, an x6800 is a waste of money IMO. Get a 6600 or 6700 and you'll get the same perfomance pretty much, and be just as happy with it. To me, an extra $500+ just so you can unlock multies is not worth it. Also, you're not guaranteed a better oc or even performance if you get a x6800 and oc. You <b>could</b> get better performance from a 6600 or 6700, it depends on the specific chip and how well it oc's. Some 6700's will clock better than x6800's, and thus outperform them, multi's meaning a big fat <b>0</b> in that situation. Well, not totally zero, you would have higher fsb with the x6800 with lowered multi, <b>but</b> cpu speed has a bigger performance impact, so it wouldn't matter that much really and the 6700 would still win. <br />
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Also, with the right mobo like an Asus P5b deluxe for example, you can go <b>down</b> on the multi's with just about any conroe/allendale, or all of them maybe, works with mine anyway and many others I know of. I think that's more useful than going up with multi anyway, cause multi down is how you get your fsb up higher. If you have good ram and mobo and you're chip oc's good, I personally don't put alot of importance on changing the multi, kinda "whoopdy doo" to me. <br />
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I understand you want something futureproof, so you don't have to upgrade for awhile. But honestly you can get a rig with the same performance/future-proofability for a ton less money than you're planning to spend here <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /> . The ram seems a little overkill too for an un-rich man, something else will do about as well, for way less and be just as futureproof. Well, if you get phase, the top-end hardcoreness of that ram may get to shine. But for water I don't think you'd hit the kind of fsb's to make that super high-end ram matter much. The only thing making me say these things, is that you said your not rich. You picked out all the stuff some rich guy, who couldn't give less of a crap how much he spent (or wastes), would get.
 
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nonono, When I say "Buy" I mean own perminently not rent like most peoples haha
 

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Thanks guys, I knew I could count on some good advice here. As for me not being RICH this is like a project to me. Something to have fun with, a toy. I could buy a Harley or maybe a Bass boat but this build is less than half of either one of them. As for time of build I plan on Feb. or March '07.
 

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ok<br><br>
There will be a lot of different options by then:<br><br>
- Quad Core should be available at lower prices, either Intel or AMD (maybe AMD a bit later.. not sure)<br>
- ATI should also have released their DX10 cards<br>
- There should be better motherboards for both SLI and Crossfire (RD600!)<br><br>
It's hard to advice you now on a rig you buy several months from now <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">ok<br />
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There will be a lot of different options by then:<br />
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- Quad Core should be available at lower prices, either Intel or AMD (maybe AMD a bit later.. not sure)<br />
- ATI should also have released their DX10 cards<br />
- There should be better motherboards for both SLI and Crossfire (RD600!)<br />
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It's hard to advice you now on a rig you buy several months from now <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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</div> well to me it's good feedback and it's helping to get me focused <img src="/images/smilies/thinking.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thinking" class="inlineimg" />
 

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Just keep your eyes on the market, read reviews, and check for what's in the pipeline. Gettting all excited for a new rig is fun <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
 

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I think this guy is rich. He must be rich to be wanting a rig like that. It doesnt matter what computer you get. Its not going to be future proof.<br />
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My computers Awesome. I think its kinda overkill. The only thing I would want to improve is my Speakers. My subwoofer is not quite loud enough to piss the neighbours off enough <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />.<br />
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EDIT: And maybe another stick of ram so I get up to 2GBs of ram.
 

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I would say get an E6600, some DDR2 800 RAM, a really good mobo, a really good PSU (PC Power & Cooling 1000W ftw), an x1950XTX, good aftermarket cooling, a good case (Lian Li's are amazing) a good monitor (30" Apple if you can afford it, 24" Dell WS if you can't) 2 150 GB Raptors in RAID 0. You'll have one of the fastest rigs on these forums, save yourself a few thousand dollars, and have an upgrade path into the next gen of ownage.<br />
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Oh, never mind, apparently you're planning on waiting.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">I would say get an E6600, some DDR2 800 RAM, a really good mobo, a really good PSU (PC Power & Cooling 1000W ftw), an x1950XTX, good aftermarket cooling, a good case (Lian Li's are amazing) a good monitor (30" Apple if you can afford it, 24" Dell WS if you can't) 2 150 GB Raptors in RAID 0. You'll have one of the fastest rigs on these forums, save yourself a few thousand dollars, and have an upgrade path into the next gen of ownage.<br />
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</div>I'd even step it down one further..<br />
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Get an EVGA adapter, personally i am just going with the 7900 GTO(OC's to GTX speeds)...<br />
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Why you ask? Because they have a 'upgrade' policy where within 90 days of purchase you can send them your video card and split the difference on any newer model of your choice...<br />
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So i think of my 250 dollar card as more of a $250 down payment towards a DX10 card(assuming they come out in the next 90 days, which all signs point to yes).
 
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