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Assassin's Creed Origins gamers are reporting massive CPU utilization. While the game is said to be quite resource-hungry already, game cracker Voksi informs TorrentFreak that anti-piracy efforts are to blame. With Denuvo in trouble, Ubisoft has called in reinforcements which are reportedly dragging down all but the most powerful machines. "It's anti-consumer and a disgusting move," he says.
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As widely reported (1,2), the infamous Denuvo anti-piracy technology has been taking a beating lately. Cracking groups are dismantling it in a matter of days, sometimes just hours, making the protection almost pointless. For Assassin's Creed Origins, however, Ubisoft decided to double up, Voksi says.

"Basically, Ubisoft have implemented VMProtect on top of Denuvo, tanking the game's performance by 30-40%, demanding that people have a more expensive CPU to play the game properly, only because of the DRM. It's anti-consumer and a disgusting move," he told TorrentFreak.
Source: https://torrentfreak.com/assassins-creed-origin-drm-hammers-gamers-cpus-171030/
 

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I don't pirate games, simply not worth it to me (and normally they are cheap enough that it's no issue.)

However, I would be enormously irritated with DRM that would use a large chunk of the CPU simply for "piracy protection" using my resources. I'd never buy a game that does this, 100% avoid to me.
 

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Is there any way they could make an online only drm free option? Where drm can only be paused remotely in real time? I bet a lot of people wouldn't mind that compromise.
 

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"That's why we are seeing 100% CPU usage on 4 core CPUs right now for example."

There's your problem folks. You need to step up to moar cores.
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Seriously though, from reviews I've seen the problem with AC:O isn't necessarily the drm, but the repetitive gameplay. I do give credit to ubi for the gorgeous open world though. Small steps.
 

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IMO, the only legitimate use of VMProtect and similar solutions for games is to prevent hacking of multiplayer titles operating on pure servers.

Even if I were interested in this title, I wouldn't buy it until I knew the DRM was patched out or a crack became readily available. DRM, in and of itself, is bad enough. Tangible reductions in accessibility and playability for the sake of a publisher's paranoid flatly rule out me being a customer.
 

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I still doubt DRM actually makes developers and publishers any money. For every person on the "I want to pirate this game but I don't have the patience to wait a week so I guess I'll give them sixty bucks" train, I bet there would be someone on the "I pirated this game and it was actually good and the publisher/developer was consumer friendly so I'll go buy a legit copy to support them" train.

And if this is true it just is another example of paying customers being treated poorly for what I would argue is no reason.
 

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Corporate with huge amount of cash vs unscrupolous pirates vs collateral damage paying customers , who would win?
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It seems Ubisoft totally lost it, now they will have real losses because of the bad reviews instead of imaginary losses...
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I wonder what will they do if pirated crack open this nut as well just like denuvo
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Nice to have something that uses 50% of my shiny new 8700k.
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The salt on the crack subs that this wasn't broken day 1 has been hilarious.
This is a jest, I suppose. Surely, you can't be glad to spend money on a poorly made product as a means of justifying an otherwise needless expense?

I wouldn't be surprised if you said the contrary. I wouldn't expect much from someone using the slang "salt".
 

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This would also explain partially why ALL ubi games perform poorly when compared graphically to their counterparts. DRM working overtime.
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This is a jest, I suppose. Surely, you can't be glad to spend money on a poorly made product as a means of justifying an otherwise needless expense?

I wouldn't be surprised if you said the contrary. I wouldn't expect much from someone using the slang "salt".
I suppose I could have said "raging entitlement" or something instead if you don't like the slang.

The first part was a joke, but I agree with Pantsu. Who would trust a pirate to be truthful about DRM? It's just random speculation till they actually crack it. Remember when they were claiming Denuvo kills SSDs a few years back? Yeahhhh.
 

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I suppose I could have said "raging entitlement" or something instead if you don't like the slang.

The first part was a joke, but I agree with Pantsu. Who would trust a pirate to be truthful about DRM? It's just random speculation till they actually crack it. Remember when they were claiming Denuvo kills SSDs a few years back? Yeahhhh.
The folks actually responsible for cracking in the first place are truthful about it, because they're talented individuals and it's a competition to find out who's better. Also, it's not like any third party can legally say "hey guys, we reverse engineered this DRM and blah blah etc etc...". So the actual crackers are the only source of information, until it's "legitimized" by the press.
 

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First off voksi doesnt even crack uplay games they crack steamworks for online play.(Known as the group Revolt)
And crack groups and pirates are not the same thing, crack groups are reverse engineers that actually buy the product to crack it and pirates are users who download the cracked version of a game.
He has nothing to gain with lying about a drm that he was never gonna crack anyway ... even if it did not have the VMP layer.

On another note he also posted this screenshot.



I do not condone piracy and i own this game btw.
I always buy games but i'm interested in reverse engineering in general as a hobby.

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Voksi explains what he did to check.
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Sure. While I was playing, I put memory breakpoint on both VMProtect sections in the exe to see if it's called while I'm playing. Once the breakpoint was enabled, I immediately landed on vmp0, called from game's code. Which means it called every time this particular game code is executed, which game code is responsible for player movement, meaning it's called non-stop.
 

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Always on, DRM taking resources etc. Why can't they just make a great game and not include any DRM, they may want to reach out to CD Projekt Red.
Well for one, it's Ubisoft
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If they aren't ruining it in some way, they aren't doing their jobs. I agree with you though - was actually thinking that before you posted it.
 

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In the gameplay shots I've seen, I'm rather annoyed that you get an Eagle that acts like a drone, adding GPS style markers to your map. None of that says ancient Egypt to me.
Its not like AC has ever been immersive....A least not to me. The stupid Animus thing always made me feel like I was playing a simulation of a video game....in a video game.
 
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