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well i guess it will be the perfect way for me to get a dual core on this, so im not left out of the fun, <br />
the multiplier at 250 fsb will only give me a 2.2 ghz, but my memory will be at liek 500 mhz, im not very sure how hgih ic an get it runnign stable with tight timings (i overclock to maximize the everything, i dontlike haveing to make my memory slower)<br />
sigh... this is stupid lol
 

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Well timings arnt always everything..Sometimes keeping them a little loose can really help you in an Overclock. But as you have said getting a Dual core will be great for you. The Opteron 165 apart from being a good chip is dual core ad cheap...You dont lose out really.
 

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ok im thinkin of the 170 instead, i want the better multi, so that i can run a 250 fsb and be happy, memory will be at 500 mhz with tight timings, HTT at 1000 and a cool 2.5 oc, that looks happy, then when i got the time, il build a nother machine, and put my nasssty 3700 back to work ^.^
 

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When overclocking, CPU speed is king, followed by memory timmings and then bandwidth (as far as A64s and Opterons go). Tighter timmings will give you more of a performance boost than increased memory bandwidth, which is nearly useless in an A64 platform. So don't be afraid to use big dividers if it will give you a greater overall CPU speed (it will allow you tighter timmings as well).
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">When overclocking, CPU speed is king, followed by memory timmings and then bandwidth (as far as A64s and Opterons go). Tighter timmings will give you more of a performance boost than increased memory bandwidth, which is nearly useless in an A64 platform. So don't be afraid to use big dividers if it will give you a greater overall CPU speed (it will allow you tighter timmings as well).</div>

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</div>Nice info mate. Yes perhaps the Opteron 170 will be bette to you due to its Higher multi..Let us know what you decide to get.
 

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wellll, my motherboard doesnt let me make a divider per say, it simply allows me to lower the speed, liek i can choose 133 1666 266 blahb lahb lah<br />
its annoying lol
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">wellll, my motherboard doesnt let me make a divider per say, it simply allows me to lower the speed, liek i can choose 133 1666 266 blahb lahb lah<br />
its annoying lol</div>

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That's the same as dividers.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">That's the same as dividers.</div>

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</div>LMAO yeah thats divider mate.
 

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well i know, bu its weird, because i was used to doing it a different way then this way, sigh
 

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Not to make you look silly but perhaps look at out Overclocking Faqs here :<a href="http://www.overclock.net/faqs/12415-info-where-can-i-find-overclocking.html?highlight=ultimate+windows+optimizer+guide" target="_blank">http://www.overclock.net/faqs/12415-...ptimizer+guide</a>
 

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A 170 at those prices at Monarch is the way to go and I agree on the few extra $$ for the retail! Save a few more $$ and go the cheep ground shipping, it will probably get there in 3-5 days <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br>
Then OC on <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin">
 

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yes indeed, its the 170 for me, i still have to waait a week, ive been greedy lately andneed a littttle more money ^.^
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Not to make you look silly but perhaps look at out Overclocking Faqs here :<a href="http://www.overclock.net/faqs/12415-info-where-can-i-find-overclocking.html?highlight=ultimate+windows+optimizer+guide" target="_blank">http://www.overclock.net/faqs/12415-...ptimizer+guide</a></div>
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lol yah i know, dont worry abotu makeing me look silly, im quite the moron<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Thumb"> i just have fun with life
 

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pssh, get the 165. the neo-4 motherboard can set dividers and everything just fine. if you are running a 300 HTT, then use a 133 divider and you'll keep your memory timings w/ DDR400<br><br>
and if your memory is really good i've actually had better performance running high fsb w/ the tightest timings possible....past DDR600 running slightly looser timings. i lost my HD though, so i'll have to redo the benchmarks and repost them. i'll try to do it this week.
 

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bleh everyone has solid ideas, i just disliek the memory divider =/
 

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I'm personally getting the Opteron 180 for what it already is and its multiplier. I had to lower my memory to DDR333 to get my 3500+ to 2750Mhz stable, but hey the Opteron 180 at stock speed will already be whooping my overclocked Venice, plus I can stay at DDR400. Opteron 180 and X2 4800+ both costs the same retail, so there's no point of going for the X2. Another thing is that I've heard many saying that X2 4800+ can reach 2.8Ghz easily even with bad steppings, so theoretically the Opteron should be even better.<br />
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If you don't like using memory dividers or if you don't plan on overclocking to the max, then the Opteron 180 should be great for you too.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">The 180 is a nice CPU however prety costly still IMO. The Opteron 170 will serve you well mate.</div>

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</div>Thought he said he didn't want anything lower than his 3700+ in speed, so how about a 175? That's perfectly a 2x 3700+ with same 2.2Ghz and 11x multi, retail for $239.99 on Newegg. <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Stick Out Tongue" class="inlineimg" />
 
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