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[TPU] GeForce GTX 275 a Non-Reference Design, Launch Coincides With Radeon HD 4890

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With AMD's new graphics card: the Radeon HD 4890 heading towards an April 6~8 worldwide launch, NVIDIA is looking at the situation carefully. While not wanting to spend much into devising a countermeasure, it still wants to address the potential threat Radeon HD 4890 poses. The most recent exposé by Taiwanese website OC Heaven shows there is reason to be optimistic about the performance HD 4890 could end up offering. NVIDIA's counter to it depends on where exactly HD 4890 lands in its competitive positioning against NVIDIA. If it is closer to or better than what the GeForce GTX 285 offers, NVIDIA may bring in price-cuts for the GTX 285, making it more competitive, but if it is poised somewhere between the GTX 260 (216SP) and GTX 285, the new SKU GTX 275 will be brought in.

The new GPU will be specified to have all its 240 stream processors enabled, while having the memory interface GTX 260 comes with: 448-bit GDDR3, with memory configurations of 896 MB or 1792 MB. Furthermore, its development will be care of NVIDIA's partners, who gain license to do so from the company. NVIDIA will not develop a reference design. The launch of the new SKU will coincide with that of the HD 4890, perhaps a few days trailing it


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Nice, another card to confuse consumers.
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Nice, another card to confuse consumers.

I think Nvidia has learned its lesson and is currently in the process of cleaning things up and making it less confusing to tell which card has the most performance. GTS240 -> GTS250 -> GTX260 -> GTX275 -> GTX285 -> GTX295 seems pretty easy to understand to me.
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what do you bet the gtx275 is another g92 revision
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what do you bet the gtx275 is another g92 revision


I do not think it will be. Unless Nvidia is stupid.
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I think Nvidia has learned its lesson and is currently in the process of cleaning things up and making it less confusing to tell which card has the most performance. GTS240 -> GTS250 -> GTX260 -> GTX275 -> GTX285 -> GTX295 seems pretty easy to understand to me.
Except that they won't have GTS240.

Interested to see how GTX275 will turn out, seeing as they skipped right over GTX270/265. Bleh.
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Except that they won't have GTS240.

Interested to see how GTX275 will turn out, seeing as they skipped right over GTX270/265. Bleh.
Ah, i didnt see that article about them canceling it. Thanks and +rep for the correction
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I think Nvidia has learned its lesson and is currently in the process of cleaning things up and making it less confusing to tell which card has the most performance. GTS240 -> GTS250 -> GTX260 -> GTX275 -> GTX285 -> GTX295 seems pretty easy to understand to me.
Cept... the 295 isnt exactly better than a 285, or even a 260, on games without sli. With sli enabled a pair of 260s or higher still beats a 295. The 9800gx2 beats anything but a 285/295 depending on the game in sli... Noobs will be noobs, unless its idiot proof (which nothing is) people will still be confused.
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I think Nvidia has learned its lesson and is currently in the process of cleaning things up and making it less confusing to tell which card has the most performance. GTS240 -> GTS250 -> GTX260 -> GTX275 -> GTX285 -> GTX295 seems pretty easy to understand to me.
There are three models of the 260. The 192, 216, and the 55nm.
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Cept... the 295 isnt exactly better than a 285, or even a 260, on games without sli. With sli enabled a pair of 260s or higher still beats a 295. The 9800gx2 beats anything but a 285/295 depending on the game in sli... Noobs will be noobs, unless its idiot proof (which nothing is) people will still be confused.
LOL! no crap its not as fast as a GTX285 when half of the card is not being used
. a single GTX295 core should be faster then the GTX260 though, considering it has the 240 SP of the GTX280 but the rest of a GTX260. my statement still stands minus the GTS240 that will never exist of course.

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There are three models of the 260. The 192, 216, and the 55nm.

All of which have been or are being phased out, soon only the GTX260 Core 216 55NM will be available.
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I don't know why, but it really bothers me when a company comes out with a product JUST to match the competition. I understand why, but it seems to me that, if a product is worth the price point, it should be released to survive on its own merit and not just to match the competitor.
having a product at different prices for each market segment is not gonna make someone buy nvidia over an ati/amd.... who are they hiring..
This was still the same level of confusion with the 8800gts. The 320, 640, and the 512. The G80's were eventually phased out, to leave just the 512. The 200 naming structure was to change things, but we see it did not. When the 192 got its extra processors it should have been the 265. When it was reduced to 55nm it should have been the 270 or 275. When the 280 was reduced to 55nm it became the 285. Not to mention the 250 being a 9800gtx+, which is a 55nm 9800gtx, which is a 8800gts.
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All of which have been or are being phased out, soon only the GTX260 Core 216 55NM will be available.
When Nvidia releases good cards, they should not work on changing very small tweaks with them. They should just sell them for cheaper....if we still had the original GTX260, I bet it would be near the prices of <150 by now....and most people would love that?
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I think Nvidia has learned its lesson and is currently in the process of cleaning things up and making it less confusing to tell which card has the most performance. GTS240 -> GTS250 -> GTX260 -> GTX275 -> GTX285 -> GTX295 seems pretty easy to understand to me.
Is there honestly a big enough performance gap between the GTX 260 Core 216 and GTX 285 to really warrant a new card in between the two?
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LOL! no crap its not as fast as a GTX285 when half of the card is not being used
. a single GTX295 core should be faster then the GTX260 though, considering it has the 240 SP of the GTX280 but the rest of a GTX260. my statement still stands minus the GTS240 that will never exist of course.

All of which have been or are being phased out, soon only the GTX260 Core 216 55NM will be available.


Unfortunately, its not. I've tested my pair of GTX 260 216 cores in SLI against my GTX295 and the GTX 260's win in every test.
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All these Nvidia cards are just a mess. We've got the 9xxx series and now the 2xx madness... I just... I just don't know what to believe anymore.
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There are three models of the 260. The 192, 216, and the 55nm.


You don't see people complaining about the multiple versions of the xbox360 out.

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When Nvidia releases good cards, they should not work on changing very small tweaks with them. They should just sell them for cheaper....if we still had the original GTX260, I bet it would be near the prices of <150 by now....and most people would love that?

So by your logic, the original xbox 360 (xenon) would cost around $50 right now because of its poor functionality.
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I don't know why, but it really bothers me when a company comes out with a product JUST to match the competition. I understand why, but it seems to me that, if a product is worth the price point, it should be released to survive on its own merit and not just to match the competitor.

True, but it is the consumer that really benefits.

The card is a combination of 285 and 260; so it could be something some what out of desperation to definitely match the 4890.
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