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HL2: EP1 & 2 weren't leaps in technology from HL2 though. This isn't HL3, it's just finishing the HL2 episodic story-line.Originally Posted by LTC
I like the optimism, however Half-Life has always been associated with a new leap in technology, such as advanced physics or material properties. If the game is created in Source, it will still feel and play like a dated game, if created in UE4 or similar, there is a whole lot of work needed to be done, for this to be a worthy successor. I'd rather they just let legacy be legacy and leave the Half-Life series to be dead until Valve decides to do something, and instead create something unique.
thank you, like yours also!Originally Posted by bajer29
If it's anything like the Black Mesa development timeline, it's going to take 5 years to develop... *Sigh* I'll wait patiently![biggrin.gif]()
@ACleverName I love your avatar btw.
Honestly don't think Valve cares enough anymore, its why they're allowing the equivalent of fanfic writers to finish the job. Can't blame them either. This IP is ancient; only the diehards and meme lovers are still attached to it.Originally Posted by LTC
I like the optimism, however Half-Life has always been associated with a new leap in technology, such as advanced physics or material properties. If the game is created in Source, it will still feel and play like a dated game, if created in UE4 or similar, there is a whole lot of work needed to be done, for this to be a worthy successor. I'd rather they just let legacy be legacy and leave the Half-Life series to be dead until Valve decides to do something, and instead create something unique.
While I agree that they have grown large due to Steam, I still believe that their heart are as a game company, and I truly hope that Steam Dev Days are going to reveal something big. Artifact seems to be a direct attempt at scoring some of the money from the other card games around, however they need to keep their momentum going, and Artifact is not a game which can be a showcase for years to come, such as Half-Life proved to be. They either need to revisit an older IP (HL3) or create a new IP which can carry the company forth into the coming years, both through technological developments (VR) or with a breakthrough in game design (Graphics, Physics etc.)Originally Posted by tpi2007
...At least we get some closure. But if they don't care about Episode 3 anymore, which seems likely by now, I don't know why some would hope that they would still care about a hypothetical Half-Life 3. To much of my dismay, they seem more focused on just investing in digital fast food games that assures them daily micro monetization and daily visits to the Store and thus a steady revenue stream than also investing in more risky story driven games that have a much more limited lifetime...
This. It feels like Valve is abdicating responsibility. Its their baby, they need to finish the job themselves.Originally Posted by LTC
While I agree that they have grown large due to Steam, I still believe that their heart are as a game company, and I truly hope that Steam Dev Days are going to reveal something big. Artifact seems to be a direct attempt at scoring some of the money from the other card games around, however they need to keep their momentum going, and Artifact is not a game which can be a showcase for years to come, such as Half-Life proved to be. They either need to revisit an older IP (HL3) or create a new IP which can carry the company forth into the coming years, both through technological developments (VR) or with a breakthrough in game design (Graphics, Physics etc.)
If Valve does not fuel the fire which started with HL2, Portal and L4D, it will slowly burn out, which will no matter what, be a worse business strategy.
I agree, they do need that king of allure from time to time, the kind that got them to have other devs to put their games on the store, but given how big Steam is nowadays, I have to wonder if they feel that need or if they think that Steam is on wheels and will just keep going as long as they keep making the necessary quality of life improvements over the years.Originally Posted by LTC
While I agree that they have grown large due to Steam, I still believe that their heart are as a game company, and I truly hope that Steam Dev Days are going to reveal something big. Artifact seems to be a direct attempt at scoring some of the money from the other card games around, however they need to keep their momentum going, and Artifact is not a game which can be a showcase for years to come, such as Half-Life proved to be. They either need to revisit an older IP (HL3) or create a new IP which can carry the company forth into the coming years, both through technological developments (VR) or with a breakthrough in game design (Graphics, Physics etc.)
If Valve does not fuel the fire which started with HL2, Portal and L4D, it will slowly burn out, which will no matter what, be a worse business strategy.
Sure it has been long, but that might as well be a great strategy as well. Releasing sub-par games would only scrutinize their image as one of the best developers around, and the hype for HL3 is still boiling on forums. It might just be me, but I think there is a fine line between how long a company can wait before releasing a new "show stopper" game, and when the hype has faded away. No matter what Valve does, there a no real competition right now other than Blizzard, which truly know how to create a long lasting experience in a game. Gabe Newell mentioned that they were working on three new games, and I hope that Artifact is the one which has had the least of attention from the developers!Originally Posted by tpi2007
I agree, they do need that king of allure from time to time, the kind that got them to have other devs to put their games on the store, but given how big Steam is nowadays, I have to wonder if they feel that need or if they think that Steam is on wheels and will just keep going as long as they keep making the necessary quality of life improvements over the years.
Maybe they'll make a comeback, I hope they do, but it's been so long now...
How long would you say that fine line is in this case?Originally Posted by LTC
Sure it has been long, but that might as well be a great strategy as well. Releasing sub-par games would only scrutinize their image as one of the best developers around, and the hype for HL3 is still boiling on forums. It might just be me, but I think there is a fine line between how long a company can wait before releasing a new "show stopper" game, and when the hype has faded away. No matter what Valve does, there a no real competition right now other than Blizzard, which truly know how to create a long lasting experience in a game. Gabe Newell mentioned that they were working on three new games, and I hope that Artifact is the one which has had the least of attention from the developers!
Well, we are still talking about their games, right? If Valve released a spectacular game at Valve Dev Days we would immediately forgive them for the long wait, as "good games take time to make". I believe that many businesses artificially drags out time to increase the impact when their product finally launches.Originally Posted by tpi2007
How long would you say that fine line is in this case?
Unless this is one of their oldschool trollings, releasing Dota 2 in 2013 and then the next game announcement that they make is in 2017 and is a Dota 2 based card game... I have reason to be sceptical.
Sure, I still hold out some hope and technically Portal 2 is within the HL universe, so it's only been 6 years; that's the time it took between the first Half-Life game (1998) and the second (2004), but from everything that I've read over time and especially Gabe's recent interviews, they really seem to be directing their efforts towards social games, including VR, not narrative driven single player games.Originally Posted by LTC
Well, we are still talking about their games, right? If Valve released a spectacular game at Valve Dev Days we would immediately forgive them for the long wait, as "good games take time to make". I believe that many businesses artificially drags out time to increase the impact when their product finally launches.
Sure I'm skeptical as well, however from a pure business standpoint it wouldn't make sense to not release a AAA title, as it would surely pay for itself many-fold, and it would hopefully create a new platform for game/mod development, such as HL2 (Source) did. HL2 was not single handily a great game, it was due to the mods that it became popular, heck, I bought it to play Garry's Mod, and only later played the core game.
