[nathris]

One of the reasons why Java should not be taught as a beginning programming language.

 

[The_Punisher]

Lmao! Java was my first programming language, but being a CS undergrad its obviously not my only one. Funny joke, you take this pic?

 

[nathris]

Nah, reddit. But I've seen similar things on the whiteboards at my Uni.

 

[crashnburn_819]

mind if i try that joke in my CS class?

 

[TEntel]

Truth.

Java abstracts things too much for the beginners.

I started on C when I was a computer engineering major.

When I switched into Computer Science, all the freshmen had to learn Java. I found it to be super easy, coming from C, and I feel that I understand many nuances of programming that my peers simply don't get.

 

[rocklobsta1109]

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEntel Truth. Java abstracts things too much. For beginners. I started on C when I was a computer engineering major. When I switched into Computer Science, all the freshmen had to learn Java. I found it to be super easy, coming from C, and I feel that I understand many nuances of programming that my peers simply don't get.

This! I went from comp engineering to CS and from C to java as well. cout>System.out.print

 

[nathris]

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocklobsta1109 This! I went from comp engineering to CS and from C to java as well. cout>System.out.print

Actually I believe that is

Code:

cout<<System.out.print;

You were probably thinking of cin.

 

[rocklobsta1109]

i was saying the cout "is greater than" system.out.print as in easier to use less to type blah blah blah but yeah thats the jist of it

 

[melterx12]

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathris Actually I believe that is Code: cout<<System.out.print; You were probably thinking of cin.

actually its
Code:

cout << "message here";

 

[Hydraulic]

Quote:

Originally Posted by melterx12 actually its Code: cout << "message here";

I think he was referring to cout is preferred over System.out.println() not that you should have two << instead of one <

but..meh

 

[mott555]

Java is a decent learning language because you can get logic and basics down without worrying about platform details and other things that are abstracted away, but I argue that it's an absolute requirement that students take a C/C++ course later on so they can learn about memory management, null-termination, pointers, and all that good stuff. Even if you never use it, it makes you a better programmer when you understand what's going on behind the scenes.

 

[Varjo]

Quote:

Originally Posted by mott555 Java is a decent learning language because you can get logic and basics down without worrying about platform details and other things that are abstracted away, but I argue that it's an absolute requirement that students take a C/C++ course later on so they can learn about memory management, null-termination, pointers, and all that good stuff. Even if you never use it, it makes you a better programmer when you understand what's going on behind the scenes.

Of course, a good computer scientists has to be able to abstract to a very high level while understanding low level nuances.

I think programmers should be familiar with at least one OO language (java, c#, c++). One Procedural language(C, fortran, ectra). One assembly language, and one scripting language.

 

[jfiaff]

I learned Java in my AP Computer Science class as a junior in high school. It made me want to hurt people

 

[XAnarchy]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfiaff I learned Java in my AP Computer Science class as a junior in high school. It made me want to hurt people

You should get that looked at.

 

[Geemaa]

I had to learn C and C++ and VB and ASP.net before I even learned a bit o java and I like it better then any other language, except for VB. VB I actually learned in my 7th grade Computer Class.

Except for PHP and SQL. Man SQL is so easy

 

[mllrkllr88]

The first joke writer was right... You gotta eat the delimiter after ever newline.

 

[ikillerzi]

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