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ok my cpu is set to 333x9=3ghz.
my vcore is 1.36v
my FSB Volts are set to +2 and memory is set to +1 (volts)
my full load temps are 69 degrees
my vid is 1.26
my motherboard is EP35-DS3L.
Am only lasting for 30 mins prime95 with all the settings above exept the vcore was at 1.3v.
i tried lowering multi but it was even more unstable.
my FSB D Ram ratio is at 1:1.

am i adding too amny volts causing instability?
i really cant get stable no matter what, can you help me please?

also on prime, the workers are at different stages. 1 core will be at test 2 and the other test 3 or even test 4, is this normal?
 

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The vdroop is probably hurting the overclock. Try a bit more vcore, but then again, you're already right at 70C. Maybe try a cooler reseat as well? that's really hot for that voltage and clock speed.
 

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You need MORE volts. Not less.

But with those temps... you'll need a better cooler.
 

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I doubt you will get instability due to too many volts, mostly instability would be caused by too few volts. I'd up it a bit to 1.4 first to see wether that is stable (and check of your ram is running at it's rated voltages if it's set to standard timings and clocks).

And that Vdroop is awfull, from 1.36 to 1.3 in the OS? You're probably running it's stock VID (though normally taken loosly) when under load.

69C is also, a bit high for 3Ghz, I don't even hit 47 at 3Ghz.
 

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is this normal for prime? and my quad?
 

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so it needs more volts then for the vcore? what about the memory and fsb? should i put em back to auto? will my temps when stressing ever reach that when gaming or will i run at around 65 degrees?
 

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is this normal for prime? and my quad?

Ok, first of all use small FFTs to test CPU stability, and second, yeah some variation is normal, but that looks a bit extreme for 10 mins into the test. Also looks like something needs lapped. 8C difference in the core temps.
 

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you should be able to do 3.0 on stock volts. What stepping is your chip? i had same cpu and same board and I could do that with all at stock. I know all chips are differant but 3.0 has been pretty much a given with that combo. Your cooler is all that I can see as being the problem. Oh and that board doesnt like 4 sticks of ram so if thats what got try with 2 sticks. good luck
 

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this cooler was rec to me by many on OCN. i hope am stable at 1.36v its been running for 20 mins
 

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B3 stepping.
2 sticks of Ram.
 

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this cooler was rec to me by many on OCN. i hope am stable at 1.36v its been running for 20 mins

Make sure you're runnings SMALL FFTs for CPU stability testing. Who recommended that cooler? I would have gotten a Xig over that.
 

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Guttboy and some other guy. it does well in reviews. no cooler will do for me as good as anyone else
 

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Guttboy and some other guy. it does well in reviews. no cooler will do for me as good as anyone else

Well, you do have a B3, but still, i doubt that chip is an inferno like mine. You use the correct amount of thermal grease?
 

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thin layer then smoothed with my finger in a plastic bag. ive been running 30 mins now on prime. i know whats casing one core to be slower than the other, whenever i increase vram my cpu is a little slower in benchmarks. this may be the problem. my vcore in cpu-z jumps from 1.344v to 1.360v and back down. not sure why, all energy saving features have been switched off.
 

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thin layer then smoothed with my finger in a plastic bag. ive been running 30 mins now on prime. i know whats casing one core to be slower than the other, whenever i increase vram my cpu is a little slower in benchmarks. this may be the problem. my vcore in cpu-z jumps from 1.344v to 1.360v and back down. not sure why, all energy saving features have been switched off.

That's not the correct way. Just put a rice sized dot on the middle of the CPU and let the cooler spread it.
 

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OK:

1) You have a B3, they run hot
2) Still, that seems really hot for that vcore
3) You did not install the TIM properly. You need to apply as one thin line (preferbaly across the dies) Should be roughly the size of an uncooked grain of rice. Let the heatsink spread it out for you. if you did it with your finger, you most likely used too much. (which can also increase temps)
4) You will need more vcore than that to stabilize. However, your temps are getting high as it is, so deal with that first.
5) that cooler does not seem to be that great. I would clean all the old TIM, reapply and see how it goes.

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6) Look up a pencil mod for that mobo. It will help stabilize the vcore and eliminate most of the vdroop. I had the same mobo and loved it.
7) Check with the manufacturer and make sure that you are running the RAM at the right voltage. Default on that mobo is 1.8v (so you are running 1.9v) which is fine, however, some RAM calls for 2.0-2.2.
8) Run memtest just to rule out the RAM. When testing the CPU, run as small FTT's to test just the CPU.
9) Listen to ljason8eg. He is on the right track
 

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The large variations in the cores worry me.

Something is not right there.

Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions other than taking off the cooler and re-seating. Even if the cooler is total garbage... you should be able to run at 3.0ghz under 70c.
 

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The large variations in the cores worry me.

Something is not right there.

Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions other than taking off the cooler and re-seating. Even if the cooler is total garbage... you should be able to run at 3.0ghz under 70c.

The temp and testing variations are normal. I have seen some cores off by 12C. I was testing mine last night and I had 7C-8C difference between the 2 dies.
 
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