[gotasavage2]

I looking for the best 1440p monitor under $750. I do not want to buy a korean monitor, so that is out of the question.

- I'm looking for accurate color reproduction/calibration for editing
- A good warranty is very important to me
- Decent for gaming, i'm not a hardcore gamer so it doesnt have to have the fastest most responsive monitor
- HDMI input would be a plus
- I do not want any PWM Flicker so that rules out the Asus PB278Q

So basically that narrows it down to:

- Samsung S27A850D
- Dell U2713HM
- ViewSonic VP2770-LED
- HP ZR2740w

So out of these monitors which would you recommend and why?

 

[MenacingTuba]

The Viewsonic is the best, though it is not popular enough to get an idea of how common light bleeding issues are.

The U2713HMl has matte coating cross hatching issues, light bleeding and burn in issues

The 850D has the least accurate colors (require software calibration) as well as bleeding issues. I know of 4 850D's which drop frames (including mine) so I definitely can not recommend it.

The ZR2740W has more ghosting than the other 3 and you can't change the colors, so if it has a color dominance out of the box (most displays do), you won't be able to do anything about it (gpu control panel settings just mess things up). Also, unless you can check/guarantee that you will be getting the revised version which has a light matte coating you may get the old version which is very grainy. The HP may also have cross hatching issues since it is an IPS exclusive problem (LG makes IPS).

If you want to hook up the HP to a console you have to set them manually to 720p (1280x720 for the 360 and 720p for the PS3) before connecting them to the HP, other wise you won't get a signal. With new consoles a fw months you may not like being limited to 720p

 

[AMC]

Get the u2713hm.

You just can't beat dell's warranty,

 

[gotasavage2]

Quote:

Originally Posted by MenacingTuba

The Viewsonic is the best, though it is not popular enough to get an idea of how common light bleeding issues are.

The U2713HMl has matte coating cross hatching issues, light bleeding and burn in issues

The 850D has the least accurate colors (require software calibration) as well as bleeding issues. I know of 4 850D's which drop frames (including mine) so I definitely can not recommend it.

The ZR2740W has more ghosting than the other 3 and you can't change the colors, so if it has a color dominance out of the box (most displays do), you won't be able to do anything about it (gpu control panel settings just mess things up). Also, unless you can check/guarantee that you will be getting the revised version which has a light matte coating you may get the old version which is very grainy. The HP may also have cross hatching issues since it is an IPS exclusive problem (LG makes IPS).

If you want to hook up the HP to a console you have to set them manually to 720p (1280x720 for the 360 and 720p for the PS3) before connecting them to the HP, other wise you won't get a signal. With new consoles a fw months you may not like being limited to 720p

Thanks, from what i have been reading the Viewsonic is looking like the best choice. The u2713hm has multiple problems and the 850D has bleeding issues like you said. So basically once i receive my tax return i will be purchasing the ViewSonic VP2770-LED. I cant wait to upgrade from my tv

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Originally Posted by AMC

Get the u2713hm.

You just can't beat dell's warranty,

I agree, but from what i have read quite a few people are having issues u2713hm and have exchanged them multiple times with no luck getting a better one. That seems like more of a hassle than it is worth.

 

[AMC]

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotasavage2

Thanks, from what i have been reading the Viewsonic is looking like the best choice. The u2713hm has multiple problems and the 850D has bleeding issues like you said. So basically once i receive my tax return i will be purchasing the ViewSonic VP2770-LED. I cant wait to upgrade from my tv

I agree, but from what i have read quite a few people are having issues u2713hm and have exchanged them multiple times with no luck getting a better one. That seems like more of a hassle than it is worth.

Buddy of mine has 2 2713hm's. Not issues besides some light bleed. Great monitors.

 

[LXXIII]

Quote:

Originally Posted by MenacingTuba

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The 850D has the least accurate colors (require software calibration) as well as bleeding issues. I know of 4 850D's which drop frames (including mine) so I definitely can not recommend it.

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This guy on Youtube has a three-part (15min each) review of the Samsung 850D. He uses software to demonstrate everything from color accuracy to latency to gamma levels to back-light. He doesn't mention how good the monitor is regarding color accuracy in general, but he did note that he's never seen color accuracy as good as the 850D post-calibration.

I recommend watching his videos whether you're using the monitor professionally or personally. You can tell he's a very detail-oriented individual who's using the monitor professionally -- that's why I trust his opinion a lot. So much, in fact, that I ordered three of them a few days ago.

 

[naididae]

Lol, that video is from the same person who posted the first reply here

 

[bangoker]

Have you considered Monoprice?

They have pretty well reviewed 27" monitors for $390, and have a pretty good warranty:
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As you've come to expect from Monoprice, we stand behind our products and offer a full 1 year warranty, which is at least 3-4 times what is offered by other monitor manufacturers. Additionally, we are so confident of the quality of these displays that we are guaranteeing these monitor will have less than 5 dead pixels. If you can count 5 dead pixels anywhere on the screen, we'll give you a new one. By comparison, the industry standard, even for industry leaders like Apple and LG, is 10 dead pixels or even more.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=9579&seq=1&format=2

 

[B!0HaZard]

Quote:

Originally Posted by MenacingTuba

The Viewsonic is the best, though it is not popular enough to get an idea of how common light bleeding issues are.
The U2713HMl has matte coating cross hatching issues, light bleeding and burn in issues
The 850D has the least accurate colors (require software calibration) as well as bleeding issues. I know of 4 850D's which drop frames (including mine) so I definitely can not recommend it.
The ZR2740W has more ghosting than the other 3 and you can't change the colors, so if it has a color dominance out of the box (most displays do), you won't be able to do anything about it (gpu control panel settings just mess things up). Also, unless you can check/guarantee that you will be getting the revised version which has a light matte coating you may get the old version which is very grainy. The HP may also have cross hatching issues since it is an IPS exclusive problem (LG makes IPS).
If you want to hook up the HP to a console you have to set them manually to 720p (1280x720 for the 360 and 720p for the PS3) before connecting them to the HP, other wise you won't get a signal. With new consoles a fw months you may not like being limited to 720p

This thread is extremely relevant to my interests.
I've decided to go for a high-res 27" IPS/PLS monitor instead of TN. My main use will be gaming.

What do you mean by cross hatching issues on the U2713HM? Also, burn-in seems like a real deal breaker if true.
Is the VP2770 really that much better than the U2713HM? Is it worth the extra $150?

 

[ski-bum]

Go with the Asus PB278Q

 

[rho86]

Dell because of the warranty and customer service. I've had problems with a 2408wfp in the past, and they provided nothing but amazing customer service.

They replaced it twice for a tinting issue, no questions asked.

 

[LXXIII]

Got the 3x 27SA850Ds. These are definitely slow panels -- it's noticeable. That being said, the colors are gorgeous -- before and after calibration, imo. Don't notice the light bleed since I only use them in light conditions.

There's a subtle bevel on the bottom of these panels that made arranging them in a perfectly "tight" configuration a little difficult but it's manageable -- my outside panels are verrrrry slightly facing down.

 

[08silverado]

I'm also very interested in this thread. I am choosing between these same monitors as OP and can't decide. I will be using DP, so I have already ruled out the Asus (as I've heard it's had problems with displayport input). I am leaning towards the Viewsonic, because the Dell seems to have a lot of problems with quality control. Is it true, as some have said, that the Viewsonic is supposed to be one of the better 2560x1440 panels when it comes to input lag?

 

[MenacingTuba]

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Originally Posted by 08silverado

Is it true, as some have said, that the Viewsonic is supposed to be one of the better 2560x1440 panels when it comes to input lag?

Yes

http://www.overclock.net/t/1335088/viewsonic-vp2770-2560x1440-semi-glossy-pls

 

[briddell]

I would look into either the Dell monitors for warranty and guaranteed quality.

That being said, for that budget, you could get 2 of the Korean IPS panels on eBay. Both are great options - do whatever you feel comfortable with.

 

[08silverado]

that's good to hear. I wish that the Asus didn't have issues with the display port or I would totally get that...

 

[Alkajak]

I'm looking for the exact same thing, and I've said no to Korean monitors. I was really considering one, but they seem like horror stories now.

The top two choices seem to be the Viewsonic VP2770 or the Dell U2713HM. In Canada, the price difference is about $30 dollars (Dell being the more expensive), so I'm seeing no reason not to get the Dell, really.

I am going to be using this for regular use, along with gaming/shows/movies. Do you guys recommend something else? I don't want the monitor to be noticeably slow in terms of input lag. I currently use the Asus VW246H.

 

[08silverado]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alkajak

I'm looking for the exact same thing, and I've said no to Korean monitors. I was really considering one, but they seem like horror stories now.

The top two choices seem to be the Viewsonic VP2770 or the Dell U2713HM. In Canada, the price difference is about $30 dollars (Dell being the more expensive), so I'm seeing no reason not to get the Dell, really.

I am going to be using this for regular use, along with gaming/shows/movies. Do you guys recommend something else? I don't want the monitor to be noticeably slow in terms of input lag. I currently use the Asus VW246H.

It seems as though Viewsonic has an even better pixel warranty than Dell and just as good a warranty.

 

[MenacingTuba]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alkajak

I don't want the monitor to be noticeably slow in terms of input lag. I currently use the Asus VW246H.

The VP2770 is only a bit slower than the fastest 60hz TN panels in terms of over all input lag and pixel response times (ghosting). One thing to consider is the power of your video card+PC; many people mistake getting low fps @2560x1440 which is far more demanding than 1080p as input lag. No one has properly tested the VW246H, but it should have really low input lag.

Keep in mind that most other 2560x1440 displays either have much higher input lag and the ones that are on par (1x dual-link dvi 1440p Koreans from ebay) lack color control settings, real warranties and are a gamble.
Quote:

Originally Posted by 08silverado

It seems as though Viewsonic has an even better pixel warranty than Dell and just as good a warranty.

Just get it from a place with a hassle free return+exchange policy like Amazon, then you can exchange it for any reason. I think buy.com and microcenter are supposed to have hassle free return+exchange policies too.

 

[Alkajak]

Quote:

Originally Posted by MenacingTuba

The VP2770 is only a bit slower than the fastest 60hz TN panels in terms of over all input lag and pixel response times (ghosting). One thing to consider is the power of your video card+PC; many people mistake getting low fps @2560x1440 which is far more demanding than 1080p as input lag. No one has properly tested the VW246H, but it should have really low input lag.

Yeah the VW246H has extremely low input lag (5ms I think), but it is a TN panel, so it was expected. I only use it as a reference point, I know that a 2560x1440 will have higher input lag, I just don't want to stray too far from 5ms where it becomes annoyingly slow. My PC is custom made and fairly high-end, so I'm not worried about whether I'm able to handle the monitor as well. I'm just looking for the better quality monitor for gaming, movies and school work/programming.

I live in Canada, so I'm very limited, and the VP2770 is almost non-existent. The cheapest VP2770 is $780 from PC-Canada while the Dell is on sale in Canada for $660 ($800 retail).