[stutla22]

Well i think its the best thing to do to make my computer faster/less lag with games, heres the specs of current-

Windows vista premium
4Gb of ram
Amd phenom 9150e quad core processor
Ati radeon hd 3200 graphics card

Im thinking of getting this first-


Amazon.com: AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2 GHz 2x512 KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor - Retail HDZ555WFBGMBOX: Electronics

But will it work with my computer without changing the power supply/mother board.

 

[beers]

What model is your PC?
You've really included no details that would allow us to assist you.

Also, the integrated GPU is likely holding your PC back in gaming more than that CPU.

 

[stutla22]

Gateway dx4200, i was wondering if cpu or card would be better for now. i need to be able to run multiple things if that helps lol

 

[beers]

Thanks
What kind of games are you trying to play?

Certain games are more CPU biased, and certain games are more GPU biased.
That may influence your decision on which component to examine first.

 

[Blue6228]

While I agree that the integrated graphics are definitely bogging you down on games, those first gen phenom processors were terrible. The processor that you're thinking about picking up is a good choice but we need to know what motherboard you're using to see if it's compatible with that processor. Also, a big advantage to buying the 555 from AMD is that you can unlock the other 2 cores on the chip to make it a quad core but that relies on the board having the unlock capabilities.

Need more info plox

 

[stutla22]

well im kinda new into computer software.. lol how would i check the board number/model.

 

[stutla22]

beers,well right now i only play games on java but i do multiples of it which kill my cpu. i would like to play games like fallout on here.

 

[Blue6228]

Well you have a 780g motherboard that has an AM2/AM2+ socket. The phenom II x2 555 needs an AM3 socket so it looks like you're out of luck there unless you upgrade your board. If you don't want to upgrade the board then your only real option to increase your performance in games is to upgrade the video card.

 

[MrTOOSHORT]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue6228;13060380
Well you have a 780g motherboard that has an AM2/AM2+ socket. The phenom II x2 555 needs an AM3 socket so it looks like you're out of luck there unless you upgrade your board. If you don't want to upgrade the board then your only real option to increase your performance in games is to upgrade the video card.

The Phenom II 555 has a ddr2 memory controller aswell, so it can indeed work in an AM2, AM2+ socket.

 

[stutla22]

hmm.. so will it work or not? lol

 

[Blue6228]

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTOOSHORT The Phenom II 555 has a ddr2 memory controller aswell, so it can indeed work in an AM2, AM2+ socket.

It's sketchy as all get out and requires a ton of work to get it stable. It wasn't designed for the AM2/AM2+ socket and for the OP (who states that he's not too tech saavy) it would be a lot of work.

Refer to this thread.

 

[Noctizzle]

would take a lot of effort to get a 555 working on an am2/+ board. just get a new gpu, and im sure we can all suggest something for you depending on budget.

 

[Blue6228]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctizzle would take a lot of effort to get a 555 working on an am2/+ board. just get a new gpu, and im sure we can all suggest something for you depending on budget.

Agreed. There are a ton of great processors that will perform a million times better than the integrated GPU you have now.

 

[xd_1771]

It might work but likely not unlocked due to TDP concerns

 

[Blue6228]

Yea a couple of people got it working in that thread I linked above but it sounds like it would be a serious job and I'm not sure the OP is up to it. I mean this is OCN and he'd have tons of help so by all means OP if you'd like to try that 555 on an AM2 board go for it. Just know going in that it's not going to work right out of the box. There are ram adjustments and bios flashes that have to be done before it'll operate without a ton of BSODs.

 

[stutla22]

Thanks all, Is there any video card that would be good for gaming around $90-100?

 

[Imglidinhere]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctizzle;13060995
would take a lot of effort to get a 555 working on an am2/+ board. just get a new gpu, and im sure we can all suggest something for you depending on budget.

What are you talking about? I've gotten AM3 chips to work on AM2+ boards before. Just check to see if the bios supports it. There's literally no difference between the chips aside from that. If there are differentiating total pin counts, I haven't encountered any problems.

The Phenom II 550 is going to be like god when you get it.

I'd try to find something like a 4890 for the GPU. You can generally find one for like $90 and it'll handle anything you want if that integrated GPU was okay for you.

 

[pyra]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue6228;13063905
Yea a couple of people got it working in that thread I linked above but it sounds like it would be a serious job and I'm not sure the OP is up to it. I mean this is OCN and he'd have tons of help so by all means OP if you'd like to try that 555 on an AM2 board go for it. Just know going in that it's not going to work right out of the box. There are ram adjustments and bios flashes that have to be done before it'll operate without a ton of BSODs.

^this is wrong^

an AM2+ mobo should let you use any of AMDs current processors including six core models (if there is an updated bios for them), but as xd_1771 said, check out the VRMs on that board first, I would suggest reading the thread about it in his sig.

 

[stutla22]

How can i found out the vrms?

 

[Blue6228]

Quote:

Originally Posted by pyra;13077223
^this is wrong^

an AM2+ mobo should let you use any of AMDs current processors including six core models (if there is an updated bios for them), but as xd_1771 said, check out the VRMs on that board first, I would suggest reading the thread about it in his sig.

You're right. I was looking at the wrong board when I posted that, sorry for the mis-information.