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Upgrading Athlon 64 x2 3800+

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Hi everyone,

Thanks to some poor handling of my heatsink my AMD chip is now useless; I bent many of the pins and even broke some. I took it to a repair shop to see if he had any idea on what to do and he simply said I needed to replace the chip. Well, ok. I go on Newegg and see a bunch of x2 chips but no 3800+ so I get the idea to buy a better/faster chip. However, I'm not sure if this computer (link or motherboard would be compatible with, say...

6000+ 3.0GHz
5400+ 2.8GHz

or any other Athlon x2 chips available on newegg?

I tried calling HP support and ASUS support and both were more than unhelpful; they were downright rude. All I want to do is get my computer back up and running, so I need to buy the right part for the job. Can anybody help me?
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Originally Posted by ihateHPsupport View Post
Hi everyone,

Thanks to some poor handling of my heatsink my AMD chip is now useless; I bent many of the pins and even broke some. I took it to a repair shop to see if he had any idea on what to do and he simply said I needed to replace the chip. Well, ok. I go on Newegg and see a bunch of x2 chips but no 3800+ so I get the idea to buy a better/faster chip. However, I'm not sure if this computer (link or motherboard would be compatible with, say...

6000+ 3.0GHz
5400+ 2.8GHz

or any other Athlon x2 chips available on newegg?

I tried calling HP support and ASUS support and both were more than unhelpful; they were downright rude. All I want to do is get my computer back up and running, so I need to buy the right part for the job. Can anybody help me?
First, I would suggest you fill in your system specs here:

http://www.overclock.net/specs.php?do=addsystem

Second, was your chip an AM2 or 939 chip? The easy way to answer that is are you using DDR or DDR2 RAM? Honestly though, we really need your motherboard to see what's a great upgrade option for ya. Those chips are nice but you could get a better one if you're motherboard's bios supports them.
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Originally Posted by ihateHPsupport View Post
Hi everyone,

Thanks to some poor handling of my heatsink my AMD chip is now useless; I bent many of the pins and even broke some. I took it to a repair shop to see if he had any idea on what to do and he simply said I needed to replace the chip. Well, ok. I go on Newegg and see a bunch of x2 chips but no 3800+ so I get the idea to buy a better/faster chip. However, I'm not sure if this computer (link or motherboard would be compatible with, say...

6000+ 3.0GHz
5400+ 2.8GHz

or any other Athlon x2 chips available on newegg?

I tried calling HP support and ASUS support and both were more than unhelpful; they were downright rude. All I want to do is get my computer back up and running, so I need to buy the right part for the job. Can anybody help me?
can you either tell us the numbers and letters on the top or send us a picture of the top of your CPU?
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as the poster above said - you need to figure out which socket you're using.

2 problems I see...

1.)you're probably using 939 socket...which will be very hard to find chips...at least reasonably priced to performance..

2.)you're trying to upgrade an OEM computer... if you need to replace motherboard (ie can't find any reasonable 939 chips)...you'll likely have trouble re-activating your windows (since the OEM license is tied to the motherboard).....

BEst bet....forget getting away with this cheaply (you did bend pins..
) scrap the OEM case and get a cheap case (rosewill's are dirt cheap)..

then get a cheap motherboard (AM3 - don't go AM2 - DDR2 RAM is outrageously priced right now)...get some cheap DDR3 and whatever chip you like (cheap x2 maybe, leaving you lots of room for CPU upgrade in future.)

If you're lucky - windows will let you reactivate with the new motherboard...if not....OEM copy of windows 7.....
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He's not using a socket 939 chip

the 3800+ is a socket AM2 chip.....that runs at 35W so you need something that runs on low wattage...

I would go with the 5400+ you got listed. anything near 60 watts.
Ok, I upgraded my specs.

I don't think I need to scrap the PC. Windows is installed fine and dandy on the HD and everything else is pretty untouched. The chip is an AM2, which seems to be what most of the chips on Newegg are.
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He's not using a socket 939 chip

the 3800+ is a socket AM2 chip.....that runs at 35W so you need something that runs on low wattage...

I would go with the 5400+ you got listed. anything near 60 watts.

There's a 'retail' option and an 'OEM' option; which one?
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you motherboard supports a 5400+ without a power supply upgrade...however you might need the latest bios to run it.

If you need thermal paste and a fan for the board go retail...

if you need the CPU only go OEM.
Well it's like this...your motherboard's BIOS only supports up to the 5000+ natively. You'll have to upgrade your BIOS to use anything above that. If I were you, I would seriously look into building a new machine completely. You'll get a lot more bang for your buck and you won't be limited with your motherboard.
The computer you linked too says AM2, so get yourself an AM2 chip. The 6000+ Windsor would be nice. The BIOS situation may be a bit iffy, but with luck the new chip will work (specially if the old 3800+ was also a Windsor chip).
I've read through all the CPU upgrades and it seems the board will support up to the 6000+ without bios upgrade...

you are good to go...all the people say it doesnt show up in BIOS but works perfectly under CPU-Z and windows. I suggest installing them upgrading bios if you want to see it recognized in the bios which I think is pointless cause you can't overclock it anyways.

again go with the 5400+ its the wattage range you can use with your power supply most likely.
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The computer you linked too says AM2, so get yourself an AM2 chip. The 6000+ Windsor would be nice.

Would the 6000+ work? The other person said I would have to upgrade my BIOs to run the lesser chip (which I guess the repair guy could do). I guess I'll just go with the 5400+ since my PSU is pretty weak.

Thanks for the help everyone!
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Would the 6000+ work? The other person said I would have to upgrade my BIOs to run the lesser chip (which I guess the repair guy could do). I guess I'll just go with the 5400+ since my PSU is pretty weak.

Thanks for the help everyone!


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Read up on your motherboard.....they clearly state exactly what CPU's you can use....
http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ASUS/A8M2N-LA.html
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=c00757531
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Thing is, the BIOS it's more likely to support the same core than a CPU of similar speed and wattage. If your previous chip was a Windsor, you will have better luck with another Windsor. The 6000+ may indeed blow up your PC, so your best bet would be to find a lower rated Windsor (again, assuming your old chip was a Windsor). Unfortunately, you are not likely to get a good price on these old chips. Ebay maybe? Upgrade the PC to the latest BIOS (there is only one that I saw).

Windsor 5400+

That is on the list of supported chips, but it's a bit more pricey.
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Read up on your motherboard.....they clearly state exactly what CPU's you can use....
http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ASUS/A8M2N-LA.html
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=c00757531

According to the HP and cpu-upgrade the 5400+ (ADA5400CZBOX) will work with this MB, so I ordered earlier today along with 4GB of RAM and a 23" HD LCD Monitor to match my other one. Looks like Christmas came early! Thanks again everyone.
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