I don't have any experience with ASrock so I can't judge the MOBO's. However, for the RAM 1333 will be fine but you may as well get 1600mhz ram. It's usually about the same price so why not? As for the processor, the Haswell CPUs are supposed to be more power efficient at the moble end in laptops. On desktop they are essentially Ivy bridge refreshes that don't OC as well. You will not notice a difference with either processor while gaming. That said I reccomend the K unlocked series if you are going to be using it for gaming, you never know when you will get that OCing itch! Also, I believe in Haswell intel has stopped all BLCK OCing in non-K CPUs.
Upgrading, need advice 4570 or 3550?
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When you OC the CPU though, it will get better in gaming than a non-OC'ed CPU. Also, it does future proof it more than a non K series because you can make it faster.Originally Posted by cyberpunkz
Thanks guys, yes I've noticed the prices are the same for 1333 and 1600 so I'll go with that.
The thing is, I've seen a number of benchmarks between the 4670k stock to OC and there doesn't seem to be any performance difference between the two in gaming. That's why I wanted to go with a non-OC processor.
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http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/12/intel-core-i5-4670k-haswell-cpu-review/5
The thing is, I'm on a strict budget and based upon the benchmarks I've found there's really no difference between an overclocked and stock clock speed CPU. or am I wrong?Originally Posted by boxwunder13
When you OC the CPU though, it will get better in gaming than a non-OC'ed CPU. Also, it does future proof it more than a non K series because you can make it faster.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/12/intel-core-i5-4670k-haswell-cpu-review/5
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Based on those benchmarks the OC'ed one is still better, but the difference is 10 FPS in some cases around 3-5 FPS in other cases. That being said, the GPU really is the main factor in gaming, but, a weak CPU will cause problems as the games get more advanced, which is why OC'ing is a good option to have, but I understand the budget woes. So, you could get a locked Intel CPU and that is what it will always be, but I think that I would go Haswell just because it is really close to the price of Ivy Bridge and it is the newest generation. Also, what is your budget?Originally Posted by cyberpunkz
The thing is, I'm on a strict budget and based upon the benchmarks I've found there's really no difference between an overclocked and stock clock speed CPU. or am I wrong?
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/12/intel-core-i5-4670k-haswell-cpu-review/5
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Oh sorry I didn't include it. My budget in my local currency is PHP 18,000. and I'll be buying from this website (CPU/RAM/mobo)
http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=dynaquestpc
Thanks man! very helpful indeedOriginally Posted by boxwunder13
Based on those benchmarks the OC'ed one is still better, but the difference is 10 FPS in some cases around 3-5 FPS in other cases. That being said, the GPU really is the main factor in gaming, but, a weak CPU will cause problems as the games get more advanced, which is why OC'ing is a good option to have, but I understand the budget woes. So, you could get a locked Intel CPU and that is what it will always be, but I think that I would go Haswell just because it is really close to the price of Ivy Bridge and it is the newest generation. Also, what is your budget?
Oh sorry I didn't include it. My budget in my local currency is PHP 18,000. and I'll be buying from this website (CPU/RAM/mobo)
http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=dynaquestpc
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So, I poked around that site a bit and it looks like you would be better going with the Ivy Bridge 3570K because the 4670K series CPU's are pretty pricey, also, the 3570K is a solid CPU and will perform like a champ in gaming. The MoBo is not the best Z77 MoBo out there, but it is still a good MoBo. The Sniper series RAM is good as well. All parts I searched for were new and in the end I came out really close to your budget. Hope this helps.
i5-3570K P9799.00
Gigabyte Z77-D3H P6400.00
G.Skill Sniper 2x4GB P2250.00
Total=P18499.00
No problem.Originally Posted by cyberpunkz
Thanks man! very helpful indeed![thumb.gif]()
Oh sorry I didn't include it. My budget in my local currency is PHP 18,000. and I'll be buying from this website (CPU/RAM/mobo)
http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=dynaquestpc
So, I poked around that site a bit and it looks like you would be better going with the Ivy Bridge 3570K because the 4670K series CPU's are pretty pricey, also, the 3570K is a solid CPU and will perform like a champ in gaming. The MoBo is not the best Z77 MoBo out there, but it is still a good MoBo. The Sniper series RAM is good as well. All parts I searched for were new and in the end I came out really close to your budget. Hope this helps.
i5-3570K P9799.00
Gigabyte Z77-D3H P6400.00
G.Skill Sniper 2x4GB P2250.00
Total=P18499.00
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Wow that's really nice, thanks a lot dude! now I have a choice of build +rep to youOriginally Posted by boxwunder13
No problem.
So, I poked around that site a bit and it looks like you would be better going with the Ivy Bridge 3570K because the 4670K series CPU's are pretty pricey, also, the 3570K is a solid CPU and will perform like a champ in gaming. The MoBo is not the best Z77 MoBo out there, but it is still a good MoBo. The Sniper series RAM is good as well. All parts I searched for were new and in the end I came out really close to your budget. Hope this helps.
i5-3570K P9799.00
Gigabyte Z77-D3H P6400.00
G.Skill Sniper 2x4GB P2250.00
Total=P18499.00
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No problem, man. Glad to help. Happy building!Originally Posted by cyberpunkz
Wow that's really nice, thanks a lot dude! now I have a choice of build +rep to you
Yea ouch there vga options arent too cheap. Gl on the cpu loto though
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Btw, I can't remember but I think I read from somewhere that I can use the iGPU with my discrete GPU for gaming in a sort of hybrid sli/xfire? is that true or am I just dreaming lol
Yeah, I'd have to save up quite a bit to get a decent GPU. But I think I'll get there, someday XDOriginally Posted by Darklyric
Yea ouch there vga options arent too cheap. Gl on the cpu loto though
Btw, I can't remember but I think I read from somewhere that I can use the iGPU with my discrete GPU for gaming in a sort of hybrid sli/xfire? is that true or am I just dreaming lol
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mostly false. I know a few igpus can cf/sli with cards but i don't think haswels one of them. Maybe try paying shipping cost? I know its sounds bad but its really is cheaper to do it that way some places.... AU ....Originally Posted by cyberpunkz
Yeah, I'd have to save up quite a bit to get a decent GPU. But I think I'll get there, someday XD
Btw, I can't remember but I think I read from somewhere that I can use the iGPU with my discrete GPU for gaming in a sort of hybrid sli/xfire? is that true or am I just dreaming lol
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Thanks man, I can do that but I would have to guess that the fees I'd have to pay with customs would negate any benefit at all.Originally Posted by Darklyric
mostly false. I know a few igpus can cf/sli with cards but i don't think haswels one of them. Maybe try paying shipping cost? I know its sounds bad but its really is cheaper to do it that way some places.... AU ....
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HIS ICE-Q HD7870 2GB P10555.00. I also converted it to dollar just to get an idea of the price for my brain and it seems like a good deal. It is this card right here, HIS 7870 on newegg.com
Just thought I would throw that out there because, why not? Cheers.
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Found a Philippine site that had GPU's, found a few actually, but they all had terrible selection. So I went back and browsed through some GPU's for a decent deal on what is, imo, a decent card. Also, I think it will be a pretty substantial upgrade. I know it is not in the budget, but something to save for or something like it.Originally Posted by cyberpunkz
Thanks man, I can do that but I would have to guess that the fees I'd have to pay with customs would negate any benefit at all.![frown.gif]()
HIS ICE-Q HD7870 2GB P10555.00. I also converted it to dollar just to get an idea of the price for my brain and it seems like a good deal. It is this card right here, HIS 7870 on newegg.com
Just thought I would throw that out there because, why not? Cheers.
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I'll keep that one in mind, but that's definitely for the future. for now the cpu/mobo/ram would doOriginally Posted by boxwunder13
Found a Philippine site that had GPU's, found a few actually, but they all had terrible selection. So I went back and browsed through some GPU's for a decent deal on what is, imo, a decent card. Also, I think it will be a pretty substantial upgrade. I know it is not in the budget, but something to save for or something like it.
HIS ICE-Q HD7870 2GB P10555.00. I also converted it to dollar just to get an idea of the price for my brain and it seems like a good deal. It is this card right here, HIS 7870 on newegg.com
Just thought I would throw that out there because, why not? Cheers.![thumb.gif]()
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Yeah for sure. Just some food for thought. Yay for upgrades though! I cannot wait to get a new CPU and MoBo, now that I have learned from my mistakes, I want to upgrade real bad. I feel you on the budget woes though, why can't someone just give us free PC parts....Originally Posted by cyberpunkz
I'll keep that one in mind, but that's definitely for the future. for now the cpu/mobo/ram would do![biggrin.gif]()
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Yea, free Titans and Haswell for everyone lol
btw any idea if this memory http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=BLE2KIT4G3D1608DE1TX0 will fit with my Hyper 212?
Hehe good thing we have these forumsOriginally Posted by boxwunder13
Yeah for sure. Just some food for thought. Yay for upgrades though! I cannot wait to get a new CPU and MoBo, now that I have learned from my mistakes, I want to upgrade real bad. I feel you on the budget woes though, why can't someone just give us free PC parts....![drunken.gif]()
btw any idea if this memory http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=BLE2KIT4G3D1608DE1TX0 will fit with my Hyper 212?
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