[lightsout]

Looked at the guru3d article earlier. Seems pretty pointless, basically just another card to have a new name in hopes people will buy. Performance is similar to cards that have been out for ages and cheaper.

 

[looniam]

Looked at the guru3d article earlier. Seems pretty pointless, basically just another card to have a new name in hopes people will buy. Performance is similar to cards that have been out for ages and cheaper.

yeah, truth be told i just posted this for posterity. i doubt unless some preteen is looking for a stocking stuffer (e: with the "new car smell" ) this holiday or someone needs a cheaper back up this won't be a massive interest.

a mod can feel free to move/lock the thread, i ain't gonna get butthurt.

 

[mohit9206]

This should have been $130 and $160 respectively.

 

[speed_demon]

Who knows maybe they'll turn out to OC really well. Or with a BIOS flash they'll be unlockable and make me breakfast in the morning.

 

[lightsout]

yeah, truth be told i just posted this for posterity. i doubt unless some preteen is looking for a stocking stuffer (e: with the "new car smell" ) this holiday or someone needs a cheaper back up this won't be a massive interest.

a mod can feel free to move/lock the thread, i ain't gonna get butthurt.

I didn't mean your thread was pointless, for sure all new GPU's should be posted in the news section. Just AMD with their poor pricing here.

Where's the "same performance at lower price bracket" of old that we've been used to all these years?

 

[looniam]

i got what you mean lightsout. but doesn't logic dictate pointless product equals pointless thread?

i haven't paid attention with what amd has planned for polaris, maybe they want the channel cleared and then drop the prices to something more reasonable but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[doom26464]

Meh. Doesn't really beat the competition just offers another choice.

Sadly the 5500xt doesnt do what the 5700xt does. Where as the 5700xt clearly beats its competition in its price bracket the 5500xt only matches.

 

[ZealotKi11er]

Do people in OCN even care about a card like this?

I didn't mean your thread was pointless, for sure all new GPU's should be posted in the news section. Just AMD with their poor pricing here.

Where's the "same performance at lower price bracket" of old that we've been used to all these years?

Very simple to explain.

1) You get to go smaller using 7nm but now you don't get price benefit so the price does not drop(It goes up), you only get the benefits of power and smaller die size.
2) 128-bit vs 256-bit (Saves die space but have to use G6)
3) G6, its expensive. You want 8Gb for under $200 when you start paying $400+ from the other camp for 8GB G6.

- AMD/ Nvidia can't compete at under $100 and make mone. Margins are too low and close.
- Also, 5500 is Apple first kind of GPU. No reason for AMD to lose or make not money in order to get a "fake" market share increase. For gamers there is no reason to stick to a brand because of prior price/perf.
- AMD has tried to be very aggressive with pricing. It doesn't work. In the GPU space you are as good as the product you selling right now.

 

[lightsout]

Do people in OCN even care about a card like this?



Very simple to explain.

1) You get to go smaller using 7nm but now you don't get price benefit so the price does not drop(It goes up), you only get the benefits of power and smaller die size.
2) 128-bit vs 256-bit (Saves die space but have to use G6)
3) G6, its expensive. You want 8Gb for under $200 when you start paying $400+ from the other camp for 8GB G6.

- AMD/ Nvidia can't compete at under $100 and make mone. Margins are too low and close.
- Also, 5500 is Apple first kind of GPU. No reason for AMD to lose or make not money in order to get a "fake" market share increase. For gamers there is no reason to stick to a brand because of prior price/perf.
- AMD has tried to be very aggressive with pricing. It doesn't work. In the GPU space you are as good as the product you selling right now.

Meh, I get all that, but as a consumer I don't care. When 1060's and 580's are available used for $125. And when that performance has been available for quite some time around that price. I am just not at all excited about paying $225. Regardless if it is 7nm or not.

$150 retail would be a sweet price for something like this, new card, full warranty. But other than that its just the same old price/performance.

 

[bkrownd]

Meh. Doesn't really beat the competition just offers another choice.

The performance numbers in the GN video just look like they took a 580/590 and slapped a 5500 sticker on it for roughly the same price. The real "choice" might be finding Polaris cards in the closeout bin sometime next year?


I guess the main feature is that it knocks about 80-100W off of the power consumption vs the Rx 580/590, with the sacrifice of a bit lower performance? I'm just having a hard time overcoming my initial expectation that they'd make the 5500 XT at least 10% faster than the 590.

 

[JackCY]

Yaaawn, another non competitive launch from AMD.

 

[PontiacGTX]

at 250 to 300 I assume the RX 5600/XT will beat RX Vega 56/64? if it does not well it is a shame this pricing, Nvidia might do better than AMD this time

 

[maltamonk]

Neither this launch nor Nvidia's offerings in this segment are any good. The 570/580/590 still rule the roost here.....and that's a shame.

 

[bkrownd]

Neither this launch nor Nvidia's offerings in this segment are any good. The 570/580/590 still rule the roost here.....and that's a shame.

It isn't a "performance enthusiast" product, but I guess it does deflect much of the Radeon power consumption criticism. It can be looked on as an incremental improvement there.

 

[maltamonk]

It isn't a "performance enthusiast" product, but I guess it does deflect much of the Radeon power consumption criticism. It can be looked on as an incremental improvement there.

I haven't seen any reasonable criticism based on power in this segment since before hd7000 series.

 

[PriestOfSin]

I haven't seen any reasonable criticism based on power in this segment since before hd7000 series.

There was a lot of power consumption hullaballoo when Vega launched, if I'm remembering right.

 

[maltamonk]

There was a lot of power consumption hullaballoo when Vega launched, if I'm remembering right.

That wasn't really in this segment though.

 

[mohit9206]

Well let's hope the 5600XT is more competitive.

 

[Imglidinhere]

To be entirely honest, the 5500XT was slotted to fight the 1650 non-super model, of which it handily annihilates for the price of that previous competitor. Now...? Yeah it's kinda pointless. Nvidia countered hardcore with the 1650 Super, though they kinda dug themselves a weird hole what with all the "super" cards now.