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The first batch of 7950s were 7970s with disabled CUs. Look at the initial reference 7950 reviews of the blower design (overclock3d review comes to mind). It's perfect sense a firmware flash would activate the dormant CUs.
Pretty sure they tried it on a few review models.. No Go.
 

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AMD is feeling the pressure from NVIDIA, especially with cards like the gtx 670 being released soon which matches 7970 performance and is like half the length.
 

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AMD is feeling the pressure from NVIDIA, especially with cards like the gtx 670 being released soon which matches 7970 performance and is like half the length.
How does someone figuring out how to unlock a card have anything to do with Nvidia or even AMD for that matter. 7970 and it's sister products are still significantly better OCrs then anything in the 6** series.
 

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AMD is feeling the pressure from NVIDIA, especially with cards like the gtx 670 being released soon which matches 7970 performance and is like half the length.
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AMD is feeling the pressure from NVIDIA, especially with cards like the gtx 670 being released soon which matches 7970 performance and is like half the length.
GTX 680 must be a pretty bad card as well, with it being so long right?
 

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AMD is feeling the pressure from NVIDIA, especially with cards like the gtx 670 being released soon which matches 7970 performance and is like half the length.
So a 670 matches a 7970 which matches a 680, sounds like nV is making the 680 obsolete already...
 

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How does someone figuring out how to unlock a card have anything to do with Nvidia or even AMD for that matter. 7970 and it's sister products are still significantly better OCrs then anything in the 6** series.
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Well according to HW bot the average 680 OC is 1180 and the average 7970 OC is 1220. Considering the 680 ships about 150mhz higher out of the box I'd say the 7970 is a significantly better overclocker on average and that it's golden chips clock higher. You're welcome to look it up on your own but there are plenty of people here on OCN with the exact same results so you know if you've been paying attention...

Also considering the 680 is voltage locked and ships with a 4 phase VRM it would seem to me that any PC enthusiast with a brain would assume out of the gate the 680 is not going to reach the levels of it's voltage unlocked competitors.

Also you don't need to bother yourself responding to this. I already know I'm right and I'm not going to argue with you.
 

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How does someone figuring out how to unlock a card have anything to do with Nvidia or even AMD for that matter. 7970 and it's sister products are still significantly better OCrs then anything in the 6** series.
Well I've already seen a few reference 680s do over 1300mhz on the stock 1.175v voltage. You're saying a lot of reference, voltage locked, 7970s do +1300mhz? Plus 2 out of...well...2, 670 Gigabyte owners have overclocked their cards past 1300mhz and surprisingly, while having less cores, have smacked the 680/7970 in the face. I see the 670 beating every other card out there this generation as far as sales go, both Nvidia and AMD, if this performance keeps up.

Plus, wait till the EVGA 680 Classified drops. 1.8v manual voltage. No one will be able to say the 680 can't overclock after that release.
 

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Well I've already seen a few reference 680s do over 1300mhz on the stock 1.175v voltage. You're saying a lot of reference, voltage locked, 7970s do +1300mhz? Plus 2 out of...well...2, 670 Gigabyte owners have overclocked their cards past 1300mhz and surprisingly, while having less cores, have smacked the 680/7970 in the face. I see the 670 beating every other card out there this generation as far as sales go, both Nvidia and AMD, if this performance keeps up.
Plus, wait till the EVGA 680 Classified drops. 1.8v manual voltage. No one will be able to say the 680 can't overclock after that release.
No reference 7970s are voltage locked so I'm not quite sure what your talking about. Anyway I see very very few 680s hitting 1300mhz just like I see very few 7970s hitting 1300mhz. Even if they all did however the 7970 would still be the better overclocker considering stock speeds.

That's why we do averages though my friend. Because anecdotal evidence means nothing. 100+ people submitting their OC's and coming up with an average does however. You should take a statistics class.

Also GPU manufacturers never release sales numbers so speculating about them is a waste of time. You and I will never know one way or another. What I do know however is that top-end cards are never good sellers and the 78** series and 660 and below will outsell the higher end cards by quite a large margin by the time it's over.
 

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Well according to HW bot the average 680 OC is 1180 and the average 7970 OC is 1220. Considering the 680 ships about 150mhz higher out of the box I'd say the 7970 is a significantly better overclocker on average and that it's golden chips clock higher. You're welcome to look it up on your own but there are plenty of people here on OCN with the exact same results so you know if you've been paying attention...
Also considering the 680 is voltage locked and ships with a 4 phase VRM it would seem to me that any PC enthusiast with a brain would assume out of the gate the 680 is not going to reach the levels of it's voltage unlocked competitors.
Also you don't need to bother yourself responding to this. I already know I'm right and I'm not going to argue with you.
Seriously. Do you sit on your computer all day looking for threads to clearly display your fanboyism in the most annoying ways possible.

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Well according to HW bot the average 680 OC is 1180 and the average 7970 OC is 1220. Considering the 680 ships about 150mhz higher out of the box I'd say the 7970 is a significantly better overclocker on average and that it's golden chips clock higher. You're welcome to look it up on your own but there are plenty of people here on OCN with the exact same results so you know if you've been paying attention...

Also considering the 680 is voltage locked and ships with a 4 phase VRM it would seem to me that any PC enthusiast with a brain would assume out of the gate the 680 is not going to reach the levels of it's voltage unlocked competitors.

Also you don't need to bother yourself responding to this. I already know I'm right and I'm not going to argue with you.
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Well I've already seen a few reference 680s do over 1300mhz on the stock 1.175v voltage. You're saying a lot of reference, voltage locked, 7970s do +1300mhz? Plus 2 out of...well...2, 670 Gigabyte owners have overclocked their cards past 1300mhz and surprisingly, while having less cores, have smacked the 680/7970 in the face. I see the 670 beating every other card out there this generation as far as sales go, both Nvidia and AMD, if this performance keeps up.
Plus, wait till the EVGA 680 Classified drops. 1.8v manual voltage. No one will be able to say the 680 can't overclock after that release.
No reference 7970s are voltage locked so I'm not quite sure what your talking about. Anyway I see very very few 680s hitting 1300mhz just like I see very few 7970s hitting 1300mhz. Even if they all did however the 7970 would still be the better overclocker considering stock speeds.

That's why we do averages though my friend. Because anecdotal evidence means nothing. 100+ people submitting their OC's and coming up with an average does however. You should take a statistics class.

Also GPU manufacturers never release sales numbers so speculating about them is a waste of time. You and I will never know one way or another. What I do know however is that top-end cards are never good sellers and the 78** series and 660 and below will outsell the higher end cards by quite a large margin by the time it's over.
Your 7970 can get above 11298 GPU score in 3DMark11?

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Who cares how highly 7970s can clock if they can't outperform the 680? It's like comparing a 5 GHz Bulldozer to a 4.8 GHz Core i7
 

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Seriously. Do you sit on your computer all day looking for threads to clearly display your fanboyism in the most annoying ways possible.
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Oh yeah you're the one who's convinced me my two 480s my two 580s and my 465 and zero AMD cards hates Nvidia.

Righto buddy. Or I just think it's dissapointing Nvidia locked down voltage and put out a bad power delivery system on their flagship card. That would be too logical though. Being serious for one moment honestly I think the 680 is a bad precedent. I hope the 780 follows in the 580s footsteps rather then the 680s.

Also to the guy above me. I'm not talking about performance and didn't say a word about performance. Have fun playing 3dmark though I hear the fourth level in the jungle is awesome. Also I don't own a 7970. I do however write Nvidia AA guides if your interested. See sig.
 
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