2080 and 2080S are > Radeon 7 at Stock but sure does not like that at 4K. We are talking here about performance drops that are huge. We are talking about single digits. Single digits in some of these games can make or break a champion. Also, we have not even started this gen. A 3070 user is not the same as a 2080 Ti user or even 3080 user. They are not going to upgrade in 2 years. Think GTX 970. Will 8GB be good enough in 6 years? Yes it will once all games had DLSS in performance mode.