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[ve3d]Michael Atkinson Wants Modern Warfare 2 Banned Down Under(Australia)

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Asshat-In-Chief, Michael Atkinson, is now attempting to have Modern Warfare 2 banned Down Under, having heard about the terrorist scene from a misinformed third-party: "I worry about any game that encourages gamers to perpetrate extreme violence and cruelty on screen, but this game [Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2] allows players to be virtual terrorists and gain points by massacring civilians. Expecting game designers to be responsible by not glorifying terrorism will always lead to disappointment."...

...Atkinson told host Peter Mares that he intends to appeal the Classification Board's classification of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2--which was rated MA15+--because he thinks the decision "is wrong". Atkinson told Mares: "This decision doesn't surprise me. The Classification Board in Australia does everything to try and get games in under the radar."...

...Atkinson told host Peter Mares that he intends to appeal the Classification Board's classification of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2--which was rated MA15+--because he thinks the decision "is wrong". Atkinson told Mares: "This decision doesn't surprise me. The Classification Board in Australia does everything to try and get games in under the radar."...
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/51...ned-Down-Under

Tbh, I agree with this guy.
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"The Classification Board in Australia does everything to try and get games in under the radar."

Good job L4D2!

Either way, I agree that it shouldn't be 15+. I don't agree that the highest rating possible in Australia should be 15+, but I think that despite the fact that it would essentially lead to its banning (or there would have to be content removal), rating it as a 15 when it so clearly shouldn't be is not the right way to go.

They shouldn't take the easy route and downrate games. They should lobby to get an 18 rating.
If it were up to me, then they'd have a 21+ rating.
isn't he a bit late, i mean, it was released a few weeks ago.

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The Classification Board in Australia does everything to try and get games in under the radar."
I usually agree with this guy but he is saying that the classification board slipped it under the table, i mean, they censored left 4 dead 2 till it was unplayable and MW2 isn't even nearly as bad as it (only if you skip the airport scene which you are free to not do at the start).
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If it were up to me, then they'd have a 21+ rating.
We don't have one of those, but we don't go banning everything from left to right all over the place in the name of "thinking of the children".
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
If it were up to me, then they'd have a 21+ rating.
Although the government thinks that having rating systems like this would do, most aussie parents don't care and would buy it for their kids anyway (it pretty much backfires on themselves). If it was up to me it would stay at +15 but the parents would have to be responsible and make sure that their kids minds aren't being effected by the violence (as far as i know mine isn't). Although this is only my opinion i believe that there are many people like me that have the same opinion.
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We don't have one of those, but we don't go banning everything from left to right all over the place in the name of "thinking of the children".
I know it doesn't exist. I'm saying I would have created it for this game as well as probably a few others. I'm not saying that I wouldn't play these games, but I remember being about 20 years old.
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I know it doesn't exist. I'm saying I would have created it for this game as well as probably a few others. I'm not saying that I wouldn't play these games, but I remember being about 20 years old.
At 18 you're legally considered to be an adult (in GB). Considering the nature of what that means, surely that would be a bad idea?
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At 18 you're legally considered to be an adult (in GB). Considering the nature of what that means, surely that would be a bad idea?
I really think age is irrevelant with video games, all of this is really about people going mentally unstable from playing these games and your maturity plays a large part in this. This is why i think the parents should be responsible for this and not the government, afterall, they are your legal guardians and have a duty of care over you and this should carry over to technology as well.

In australia the legal age limit for being an adult is 17 (or at least i think so, thats when we finish school) but most of the restrictions aren't lifted till we are 18 (drinking, smoking ect.)
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Originally Posted by jackeyjoe View Post
Although the government thinks that having rating systems like this would do, most aussie parents don't care and would buy it for their kids anyway (it pretty much backfires on themselves). If it was up to me it would stay at +15 but the parents would have to be responsible and make sure that their kids minds aren't being effected by the violence (as far as i know mine isn't). Although this is only my opinion i believe that there are many people like me that have the same opinion.
I am 30, and I know my mind is affected by games in a negative way. Unfortunately, I don't notice it until I stop for a couple of weeks or more. The difference is hard to explain, but I've observed the following with myself here on Overclock.net alone when I'm playing games every single day:
  • I'm much less inclined to put forth effort into helping people.
  • I feel less like helping others.
  • I become irritated very easily by so-called "dumb" questions, and I just ignore them as though they don't deserve any help for being so dumb.
  • If somebody posts a reply to a thread I am in who has obviously not read any of the thread at all, I have much less self-control and I end up giving them a piece of my mind - especially when there are only like 5-10 replies altogether.
  • If somebody posts a reply to one of my threads and obviously didn't understand what I said, I'm much more inclined to tell them off.
  • I'm less patient.
  • I'm less willing to put up with people.
Just... in general, I have much more negativity in everything I do. But like I said, I don't notice it until I can stop playing for a couple of weeks and then look back. I am essentially blind to what's going on while it's happening. It's the same with my driving; I have more road rage and I end up performing maneuvers in order to show somebody how I feel about the way they treated me.

So, when I'm not playing games every day, or really when I'm not playing games at all, I find that just more normal or something.

I think that's why there are so many people on here who think there's nothing wrong with being totally rude to somebody, or telling them that they're stupid, or telling them that they're wrong in a rude way, etc.

Meh... I know what this looks and sounds like, but try to understand what I'm saying: I don't see the difference until I can get out of it and then compare. Again, it's something that I'm completely unaware of until I stop playing games for a while for whatever reason.

But in general, I just become the type of person I hate and I don't realize it until I'm doing other things every day instead of gaming.
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Michael Atkinson must had been bullied when we was a kid and just getting his revenge out.

Oh well, COD MW2 should be banned and illegal to import might put a dent in the milk money Activision.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
I am 30, and I know my mind is affected by games in a negative way. Unfortunately, I don't notice it until I stop for a couple of weeks or more. The difference is hard to explain, but I've observed the following with myself here on Overclock.net alone when I'm playing games every single day:
  • I'm much less inclined to put forth effort into helping people.
  • I feel less like helping others.
  • I become irritated very easily by so-called "dumb" questions, and I just ignore them as though they don't deserve any help for being so dumb.
  • If somebody posts a reply to a thread I am in who has obviously not read any of the thread at all, I have much less self-control and I end up giving them a piece of my mind - especially when there are only like 5-10 replies altogether.
  • If somebody posts a reply to one of my threads and obviously didn't understand what I said, I'm much more inclined to tell them off.
  • I'm less patient.
  • I'm less willing to put up with people.
Just... in general, I have much more negativity in everything I do. But like I said, I don't notice it until I can stop playing for a couple of weeks and then look back. I am essentially blind to what's going on while it's happening. It's the same with my driving; I have more road rage and I end up performing maneuvers in order to show somebody how I feel about the way they treated me.

So, when I'm not playing games every day, or really when I'm not playing games at all, I find that just more normal or something.

I think that's why there are so many people on here who think there's nothing wrong with being totally rude to somebody, or telling them that they're stupid, or telling them that they're wrong in a rude way, etc.

Meh... I know what this looks and sounds like, but try to understand what I'm saying: I don't see the difference until I can get out of it and then compare. Again, it's something that I'm completely unaware of until I stop playing games for a while for whatever reason.

But in general, I just become the type of person I hate and I don't realize it until I'm doing other things every day instead of gaming.
There is one explanation for this:

Weak minded.

I can go on vacation from work and have plenty time between school (or even when school is out) to game for 8 hours a day and rage on the computer... and still have the sense to come back to reality and be calm and cool .

Your symptoms are a result of you letting it get to you.

Letting it get to you.

You let it get to you.

You let it.

Mind over matter - be mentally strong, and you can overpower anything.
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I was disgusted by the airport scene tbh but it sends a very strong message about the problems of war.
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Originally Posted by XFreeRollerX View Post
There is one explanation for this:

Weak minded.

I can go on vacation from work and have plenty time between school (or even when school is out) to game for 8 hours a day and rage on the computer... and still have the sense to come back to reality and be calm and cool .

Your symptoms are a result of you letting it get to you.

Letting it get to you.

You let it get to you.

You let it.

Mind over matter - be mentally strong, and you can overpower anything.
I wish I had more friends like this.

Thank you, FreeRoller! Yeah, I am admitting that you're right. I appreciate that you took the time to say it too.

But, I have noticed that I'm most definitely not the only one. Ever since I noticed this, I have ended up seeing a pattern here on OCN where there are people who seem to consistently say rude and really inconsiderate things to others. It's as if they think everyone is annoying and that nobody is as smart as they are. They have a really bloated false sense of self-worth.

But, I'm getting way too intense on this one.
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Originally Posted by XFreeRollerX View Post
I can go on vacation from work and have plenty time between school (or even when school is out) to game for 8 hours a day and rage on the computer... and still have the sense to come back to reality and be calm and cool .
Same here, i leave the game behavour in the game (even though i don't get very angry in game) and don't bring it back into reality.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
I am 30, and I know my mind is affected by games in a negative way. Unfortunately, I don't notice it until I stop for a couple of weeks or more. The difference is hard to explain, but I've observed the following with myself here on Overclock.net alone when I'm playing games every single day:
  • I'm much less inclined to put forth effort into helping people.
  • I feel less like helping others.
  • I become irritated very easily by so-called "dumb" questions, and I just ignore them as though they don't deserve any help for being so dumb.
  • If somebody posts a reply to a thread I am in who has obviously not read any of the thread at all, I have much less self-control and I end up giving them a piece of my mind - especially when there are only like 5-10 replies altogether.
  • If somebody posts a reply to one of my threads and obviously didn't understand what I said, I'm much more inclined to tell them off.
  • I'm less patient.
  • I'm less willing to put up with people.
Just... in general, I have much more negativity in everything I do. But like I said, I don't notice it until I can stop playing for a couple of weeks and then look back. I am essentially blind to what's going on while it's happening. It's the same with my driving; I have more road rage and I end up performing maneuvers in order to show somebody how I feel about the way they treated me.

So, when I'm not playing games every day, or really when I'm not playing games at all, I find that just more normal or something.

I think that's why there are so many people on here who think there's nothing wrong with being totally rude to somebody, or telling them that they're stupid, or telling them that they're wrong in a rude way, etc.

Meh... I know what this looks and sounds like, but try to understand what I'm saying: I don't see the difference until I can get out of it and then compare. Again, it's something that I'm completely unaware of until I stop playing games for a while for whatever reason.

But in general, I just become the type of person I hate and I don't realize it until I'm doing other things every day instead of gaming.
no offence mate but that doesn't apply to everyone. I've been gaming for most of my life and i'm not aggressive (although i was when i was much younger; but i wasn't gaming then so).
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Originally Posted by jackeyjoe View Post
Same here, i leave the game behavour in the game (even though i don't get very angry in game) and don't bring it back into reality.
I don't get angry in games either. It's just that if I game every day, I eventually start having less respect for other people or something. It's like I'm much less afraid to say things to people like "Dude, just Google it", or "well, if you would learn how to read, then you would have figured that out". You know, things like that.

It's that I'm more likely to fight or be confrontational, or something. I feel like I'm not explaining it right.
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Originally Posted by T3h_Ch33z_Muncha View Post
no offence mate but that doesn't apply to everyone. I've been gaming for most of my life and i'm not aggressive (although i was when i was much younger; but i wasn't gaming then so).
I didn't say that it applies to everyone.

But to be honest with you: I can tell that you are much more of a gamer than I am. But like I said: I am completely unaware of it when I'm affected by it.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
I wish I had more friends like this.

Thank you, FreeRoller! Yeah, I am admitting that you're right. I appreciate that you took the time to say it too.

But, I have noticed that I'm most definitely not the only one. Ever since I noticed this, I have ended up seeing a pattern here on OCN where there are people who seem to consistently say rude and really inconsiderate things to others. It's as if they think everyone is annoying and that nobody is as smart as they are. They have a really bloated false sense of self-worth.

But, I'm getting way too intense on this one.
I see it too, you're not alone


Really though, we need to have some kind of seminar for people to teach them that emotions are voluntary, most of the time

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Same here, i leave the game behavour in the game (even though i don't get very angry in game) and don't bring it back into reality.
Same, except when I get angry at a game, I keep playing and start exploding (aka: ZOMG IS HE CHEATING? WHY IS MY NET LAGGING! ZOMG ZOMG OZMG)


But I get off the computer and turn the rage switch to OFF and all is normal again
I only get like that if I've had coffee within a few hrs of intense gaming haha... Its all in fun though lol
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Everyone does realize that if they do choose, yes CHOOSE to play the airport level, they DO NOT have to join in on the shooting. So there is two ways of opting out. One, just skip it. Two, don't participate but watch to understand the story. You watch worse crap in the damn theaters... Go watch Saw, Halloween, or any horror movie.... Should all those movies be banned too? Hell, they don't have options to skip the gore, that is a definite no no. Nobody is "forced" to watch this "disturbing" content. People watch/play that level at their own discretion. If its about the children, then its the parents decision/fault. Most kids don't buy their own games, their parents do.
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