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So I have been getting this windows startup error recently. Sometimes when I turn the PC on, the bios screen appears normally, the screen stays black for a few seconds, then resets and shows the bios screen again. Thus prompting me with the windows startup recovery screen. It is never able to repair it after waiting for a while, here are the details of the error:

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name:BlueScreen
OS Version:6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID:1033

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode:a
BCP1:00004DD4
BCP2:00000002
BCP3:00000000
BCP4:8227F2AA
OS Version:6_0_6001
Service Pack:1_0
Product:256_1

Files that help describe the problem:
C:\\Windows\\Minidump\\Mini031709-01.dmp

I can't read these very well but hopefully someone can chime in!
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Bellatrix
Is your memory overclocked?

It could be a memory issue. If you've overclocked ANYTHING, set it back @ stock and try again.

If that doesn't work. Try and boot into Safe Mode and run CHKDSK.
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Nope, the only thing overclocked is the factory overclocked 8600GT. I ran memtest86+ and didn't get any errors. I'll try running chkdsk.
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well chkdsk didnt prove anything to be out of the ordinary. A faulty gpu couldn't have caused this by any chance could it? I don't know the details of the error, but I recently found out my card has a cracked capacitor. Just making a small attempt at putting 2 and 2 together.
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Hey guys, I've been having similar issues with my PC, I found this thread when I did a google search for the error code "8227F2AA", it was the only result.

Just wanted to maybe bump this thread and see if OP maybe found a solution or if maybe someone else knows some info that can help?

Here's the link to my help thread I made in WP, FYI:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...70&p=-1#bottom

Cheers
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I actually never did find an actual solution to this problem. I have since got a new video card, and switched to Windows 7.. but I still get a random BSOD, just not nearly as much as I used to. It just kind of chilled out.. *shrugs*

I started to just assume it's either the board or memory.. the stuff HP uses isn't great, and that's pretty much what my PC still is right now.. not to mention being pretty outdated.
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I actually never did find an actual solution to this problem. I have since got a new video card, and switched to Windows 7.. but I still get a random BSOD, just not nearly as much as I used to. It just kind of chilled out.. *shrugs*

I started to just assume it's either the board or memory.. the stuff HP uses isn't great, and that's pretty much what my PC still is right now.. not to mention being pretty outdated.
That sucks. I have been thinking of doing a format and installing Vista x64 or W7 x64. Don't have the time for it. From what I have been told the BSODs I am getting could be anything from hardware to software/driver issues... so it's pretty vague.


Anyone else have anything to add??
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Sethy666
Cant help but notice that both OPs are running odd ram. Have either of you tried running just 2 gb of ram and see if that helps. Sometimes if ram sticks aren't from the same manufacturer, there can be probs... you probably already knew that but i thought Id mention it
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Cant help but notice that both OPs are running odd ram. Have either of you tried running just 2 gb of ram and see if that helps. Sometimes if ram sticks aren't from the same manufacturer, there can be probs... you probably already knew that but i thought Id mention it


Yeah I already knew that, another point that could cause issues is that the system is OC'd and the RAM has slightly different timings (very close though).

It's hard though as I often need more than 2GB of RAM (Photoshop etc) and the issue is so intermittent, it is a real pain in the ass to have to run with 2GB for a month to see if that might be the cause, yet I also don't want to buy a new 4GB kit from the same manufacturer if the RAM isn't the cause of the issue.

It's a bit of a tricky situation.

PS- I am running the latest BIOS update for my mobo too, F4 I think it is. There's no mention of memory issue fixes though. Link
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Okay, so lets put the ram on the back burner for a minute and run through a rudimentary check list.

Ram = tick
BIOS - tick
Heat - hows the CPU / GPU running?
Drivers - all up to speed?
Virus' - checked for?
Paging - got enough?
Connections - all secure?

You have probably already done all this and it is not my intention of insulting your intelligence or skill... just need to clarify for the rest of the forum members...
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  • Ram - Tested in Memtest86+ for over an hour and also in Intel Burn Test v.2 (50 loops, ~35 minutes). All passed fine.
  • BIOS - Updated to latest version.
  • Heat - CPU idles at ~40c and hits ~55-60c on full load. GPU idles at around ~50-55c and hits around ~75-80c on full load (I have been told this is normal for Nvidia cards).
  • Drivers - Most drivers fully updated, except GPU which is one version behind, the issue occurred before and after driver update though.
  • Virus' - None, full scan performed with Avast.
  • Paging - Fine, 4GB RAM.
  • Connections - Yep, on a secure network.

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it is not my intention of insulting your intelligence or skill... just need to clarify for the rest of the forum members...

No offence taken, I understand your intention entirely. More information is on the WP thread I made on this issue, but for the sake of getting the info out I will re-post it here.

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For the past few months I have had the issue of a random, intermittent BSOD that would occur at startup once every few months.

I originally thought it was due to a crappy USB bluetooth dongle attached to my PC that was causing issues, as it wouldn't install the driver for it properly. After removing it everything seemed to be OK for a few months.

However just in the past couple of weeks I have had about two BSODs (IRQL_NOT_LESS_THAN_EQUAL). The first time after doing some heavy photoshop work and I shut the system down to clean the mouse etc then turned it back on 10 minutes later, and the second time a few days later on a cold system start, and one game freeze which is normally stable (Prototype), though not sure if that is related.

It is starting to seem like it is happening more often and I would like to find out what is causing the BSOD and fix it before it gets any worse or compounds.

I had a look in the reliability and performance monitor and it had logged the two latest BSOD, with the info: OS Stopped working, and then states a failure detail reference which is the same as what the BSOD showed (see pics).

8th of September, 2009


11th of September, 2009


What I have done so far to try and trouble-shoot, fix the issue:
  • Updated graphics card driver, this seemed to be the obvious culprit, however issue still occurs with latest driver (currently using 190.38 nvidia drivers).
  • Ran memtest86+ (v.2.11) for over an hour, no issues found.
  • Stress tested system using Intel Burn Test (linpack) v.2 for about 50 round on standard memory and it passed fine.
  • Removed any unnecessary programs from startup.
What other things I was thinking of doing:
  • Upping vcore one notch, not sure if this will have any effect.
  • Removing OC completely for a while for testing purposes.
  • Installing SP2 for the OS (NOTE: did this recently, 20/09).
  • Deleting current driver and all traces and rolling back to an earlier version.
I have the following specs atm:
-Intel E8400 @ 3.6GHz (~1.35v from memory, maybe less) C0 revision.
-GB DS3R-EP35 mobo
-4GB DDR2 800MHz
-9800GT @ stock clocks (and 190.38 driver as mentioned above).
-Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 x86 (legit)
-Dual monitors, using Ultramon to manage them.

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Sethy666
Hmmm... last time I had one of those it was my Graphics card (see sig). I stopped having them when I upped my PSU to a branded 750 watt.

Are you able to change out your PSU for something with a bit more umph?
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Hmmm... last time I had one of those it was my Graphics card (see sig). I stopped having them when I upped my PSU to a branded 750 watt.

Are you able to change out your PSU for something with a bit more umph?

Nope. All I have is my Earthwatts, and I really would prefer not to have to buy another PSU just for testing. Anyway, for the system I am running 500w @ 80%+ efficiency is ****loads. I am also thinking that it has been fine for months, and only now starts again, no hardware has been added in months, so there's no excess power draw or anything that could cause it.
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Then my friend, Im out of ideas....
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Originally Posted by Sethy666 View Post
Then my friend, Im out of ideas....

Just a bump in case there's anyone else out there who might be able to shed some light on this issue?
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Just a nother thought... I know you said your ran memtest and burn but try this left field idea,,,

Remove your ram sticks and place them in the other's sockets eg Stick 1 in socket 1, placed in socket 3, stick 3 in socket 3 place in socket 1... make sense?

Worth a shot.
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Just a nother thought... I know you said your ran memtest and burn but try this left field idea,,,

Remove your ram sticks and place them in the other's sockets eg Stick 1 in socket 1, placed in socket 3, stick 3 in socket 3 place in socket 1... make sense?

Worth a shot.
Yeah makes sense, not sure if it will do any good but I'll add it to my list of things I gotta try.


I had another BSOD, posted this in the WP thread:

/start

Well.. since installing SP2 a few days ago I had been having a good run and I was secretly hoping that the issue had somehow resolved it's self.

I just got back from Uni, turned on the PC after it had been off for a few hours and was greeted by this lovely sight:


After I reset the PC I got a "Windows has recovered from an unexpected error" dialogue box pop up, which asked me to check for solutions, nothing was found though (surprise surprise).

Here's the details that I copied:

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name:BlueScreen
OS Version:6.0.6002.2.2.0.256.1
Locale ID:3081

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode:a
BCP1:00009714
BCP2:00000002
BCP3:00000000
BCP4:822EE293
OS Version:6_0_6002
Service Pack:2_0
Product:256_1

Files that help describe the problem:
C:\\Windows\\Minidump\\Mini092309-01.dmp
C:\\Users\\User\\AppData\\Local\\Temp\\WER-42401-0.sysdata.xml
C:\\Users\\User\\AppData\\Local\\Temp\\WER3310.tmp .version.txt

I also copied the minidump into another folder that I am using to log this issue.

Meh.

I am going to try dropping back to 185 display driver drivers I think.

Then try returning the system to default clock settings.

Then try running on 2GB of matching RAM only.

Between each stage I will wait to see if it BSODs again, if it does I will try the next step. It's so annoying though as it is such an intermittent issue, the PC will be running like a dream for a week and then one day will just bluecreen.

/end
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Sethy666
Good luck man... you gots some Sherlock Holms'ing to do there.

Here's some info on the error;

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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314063

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Good luck man... you gots some Sherlock Holms'ing to do there.

I know.

I found this debugging guide on OCAU, will try it out soon:

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...d.php?t=728785
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nice find.
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