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(This'll be long, happy reading)
(Basically I need your help because ya'll know more about this stuff than me)

Hey guys, got a new HP 17-G102AX the other week.
Before you grill me: I wanted the mobility (it might not be much but on lazy days I can't be bothered even making it to the desk from the bed, also, sometimes I like to move my position around the house, lounge room, dining room, whatever the mood is..) and ultimately it was just in my price range on sale.. So there we have it.

This laptop is pretty mid-range at best, meets minimum requirements of most things but not recommended on some.
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A8-7410 APU with R5 Graphics
2GB R7 m360
16GB DDR3 RAM

First thing: anyone else had some doubts about which graphics games are using primarily? I installed Sim City and it came up "Minimum requirements not met this game may run like ****" basically, for the R7 M360, a card that I've seen someone play Fallout 4 on maybe mid settings, this shocked me. Most games when I hit Graphics settings and if it has a box there to tell me what card I'm using, it'll say "R5 Graphics", also went on 'Can I Run It?', ran the auto detect and it only picked up the R5. Not sure how I make it so that the R7 is what everything wants to use first, or if it even matters?

Got everything set to max in Radeon settings, installed Crimson drivers and maxed some stuff there too. Just doesn't seem enough so I'm seeking maybe a sweet spot in between 20%-50% increase of power on both the APU and GPU.
However when I go to CCC (or "more Radeon settings" via Crimson) the "overdrive" option isn't there.

I read through the warranty and it said that if found to be overclocked after HP delivery, limited warranty will not cover any damages unless the damages are proven to be caused by an issue unrelated to overclocking.... Or something along those lines. So basically as long as I don't **** it by going too crazy with the overclocking, I'm still covered for everything else. Which is why I'm not too concerned and I'm not seeking a big increase until atleast a year from now.

So.. I figure HP has overclocking locked.. Soo. Advice from absolutely anyone on how to overclock this laptop?
I figure not many people that but a HP laptop overclock so there's a real lack of tutorials for unlocking overclocking on HP laptops.
If anyone else has attempted this with this mid range laptop let me know how you got it done/what was your sweet spot.

Cheers for your help. :)
 

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Even if jaguar/pumas weren't all locked multipliers, laptops especially in that price range have bare minimum power bricks, VRMs and cooling. If you could overclock, it would throttle a lot or burn up. The 7410 is running close to jaguar/puma max anyway.
I don't know if it's possible to get any more out of the GPU through afterburner but it probably wouldn't be worth it. You'll just have to live with the performance you have.
AMD overdrive doesnt recognize the 7410 either
 

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2GB R7 m360 is low end APU being on 64bit. Basically majority of games will not play well.
Most APU, the GPU portion performance is based off the ram clock speed being used.
R7 m370 in comparison is almost double the performance.

You can play FO4 at 1280x720 with lowest settings and only get 20fps at max on m360.
APU is ok, but not much for gaming. You really want a dedicated GPU.

As for OC, it is locked and not possible on that laptop. What you got, is the limit this laptop can do.
 

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Thanks for the replies.
It says the r7 m360 is dedicated, the Apu runs the r5.

Guess I'll have to deal with it until I can get something more permanent. The **** thing was, for the price range the m360 was actually the best I could get, or drop down to the m350 for a slightly better CPU.
An even ****TIER thing, I put a deposit on this laptop and a week later another shop had a laptop with an i7-xxxxHQ and GTX 960m for two hundred extra, but I would have lost the deposit in cancelling so essentially it would have actually been $500 extra.

Doesn't bother me so much, next time I'll build something and keep the laptop for basically casual things and Microsoft word, but I really thought I'd be able to push some extra juice outta this.
 

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Can you return the laptop you got? If it was less than month, you should have a return policy.
The i7 with GTX960m would be a big improvement. I would look at least 970m
 

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Yeah I was pretty mad when I saw the i7 laptop for just a bit more.
Unfortunately I bought it from Harvey Norman, and as far as I know their policy is only returns if it's damaged/malfunctioning from their end, and even then I'd have to go through the process of getting a replacement first and all this other heap of crap. They'll basically do anything in their power to keep my money.

I'm looking at some of these spare part places that are HP authorised, when they open Monday I might ring them, see how much it might be to upgrade the graphics, see if they'll let me trade on this basically unused card plus cash.

If any of you know a good place around Australia where I could upgrade my notebook graphics card and not pay an arm and a leg that'd be much, much, muchly appreciated.

Already tried eBay, no such luck for anything good.
 

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Opinions on the m370, m380 or m390 though? Either R7 or (and I assume these would be a fortune) a R9?
 

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I don't know if it's possible to get any more out of the GPU through afterburner but it probably wouldn't be worth it. You'll just have to live with the performance you have.
AMD overdrive doesnt recognize the 7410 either
Afterburner wouldn't let me touch anything, set it on unofficial overclock mode and it wouldn't let me touch anything. Probably a sign that touching anything in this laptop would most likely break it, unless there's another reason. Either way I'll take the safer path and look into saving up and buildin something more permanent or upgrading the graphics in this one.
 

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You cannot upgrade anything for the GPU/CPU. It is build for that model as it solder on.
M390 is good slightly better than the 960M. But most of the CPU that comes with the M390 would be weaker than Intel version with 960M.

Let the store know that this model is not capable of playing any games and it having issues.
Try to get money back.
 
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