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Korean Product Page

__Specs:

Panel : AH-IPS LED
Screen Size : 43" (108cm ) 16:9
Resolution : 3840 X 2160 (4K UHD)
Display Colors : 1.07B Colors, 10bit
Pixel Pitch : 0.2451mm x 0.2451mm
Brightness : 400cd/m²
DCR : 1,000,000:1
Contrast Ratio : 1,200:1
Response Time : 5ms
Viewing Angle : 178 (H) / 178 (V)
Refresh Rate : 120Hz ( DP ) / 60Hz ( HDMI ) / 96 Hz (w/ HDR Enabled)
Input Terminal : DP1.4 x 2 / HDMI2.0 x 3 / Optical (In?) / Service USB
Speaker : 10 W + 10 W
Input Voltage : 100-240V ~50/60Hz
Including Packaging Weight : 14.5kg (32lbs)
Size (with stand) (WxHxD) : 976mm x 626mm x 250mm (38.42" x 24.64" x 9.84")
Size (without stand) (WxHxD) : 976mm x 568mm x 64mm (38.42" x 22.36" x 2.52")
VESA Specification : 200x 200mm
MSRP : 1,290,000 KRW (~$1200 USD)

Miscellaneous: Flicker Free / Blue Light Cut / Crossover Display (?) / PIP / PBP / HDCP 2.2 / 4:4:4 Chroma Subsampling (translated by Google)

__Availability:

eBay Listings Search - https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Wasabi+Mango+UHD430+-ZEN++120Hz

Korean sites selling it, some of which offer international shipping if you can figure it out:
http://smartstore.naver.com/jkonfarm/products/2877282444
http://item.gmarket.co.kr/DetailView/Item.asp?goodscode=1398705662
http://www.11st.co.kr/product/Selle...ethod=getSellerProductDetail&prdNo=2044232543

__Reviews:

https://gigglehd.com/gg/review/2861985 (in Korean)
Linus Tech Tips video review - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Linus+Wasabi+Mango
(I have no idea how to stop this site from auto-embedding and centering the video with a direct YouTube link, so it should be the first video in the YouTube search linked above)


__Updates:

As an original owner of the WM UHD420, I'm genuinely interested in 4K @ 120Hz at 43".

So, I sent a message to etradekorea (the only seller of the display on eBay at the moment), and here's what they said:

Is the screen glossy or anti-glare?
The panel type is semi glare.

I'm not entirely sure what "semi glare" means in this case, as it could mean that it's glossy, so there's somewhat (semi) of a glare, or that there is anti-glare coating on it. Here is a still from an un-boxing video on YouTube of the original UHD430 display, so it may be safe to assume that's the level of gloss on the screen.

Are both DP inputs required for 120Hz 10-bit?
There is no problem connecting only one of them.

Note: To use this monitor at 120Hz, you must use the Windows 10 and at least you must use your graphics card GTX 1050 or over GTX 1050.


What is the pixel policy of this particular auction? Is it considered to be perfect pixel?
If there are more than 10 defects, we will refund or exchange (This is the manufacturer's policy).

What is the manufacturer's warranty? Would it be honored outside of South Korea?
The manufacturer's warranty is one year, but it is only possible in South Korea. If the product has a problem within one year, please send the product. We'll send it back after the repair. Generally the monitor seldom breaks down. We sold a lot of monitors, but almost nothing happened.

It's nice that they'll still honor the warranty outside of South Korea, but the cost of shipping to them is going to come out of your pocket. However, when it comes to such an expensive display, $200 in shipping is a lot less than just buying another one.
I've also messaged dream-seller, who had sold Wasabi Mango displays in the past on eBay, to see if they'll be carrying them again (no answer yet). I also wanted to reach out to green-sum, another past seller of Wasabi Mango, but their store on eBay seems to have been shut down.

Post Edit History:
EDIT_01: Re-wrote post.
EDIT_02: Added still image showing assumed level of gloss on the screen
EDIT_03: Q4 added / Details about remote from etradekorea auction added
EDIT_04: Added MSRP / Added First Review
EDIT_05: Added better eBay link / Added LTT Review
 

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Dual DP 1.4 for 4k120Hz? Shouldn't a single connection be enough? Still this is a very interesting monitor indeed. Good enough to.hold us all over until 40 inch 4k 120hz OLED.
 

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Dual DP 1.4 for 4k120Hz? Shouldn't a single connection be enough?
Yeah, that part of it is interesting. It's not a drawback for me, as I've got the ports to spare, but I assumed a single DP 1.4 cable should be enough to do the job. /shrug

Although, I'm not familiar with dual-cable single-display configurations and how the GPU(s) see them, specifically in terms of an SLI setup.
 

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Dual DP 1.4 for 4k120Hz? Shouldn't a single connection be enough? Still this is a very interesting monitor indeed. Good enough to.hold us all over until 40 inch 4k 120hz OLED.
It's definitely more interesting than having to pay north of 2K for the G-sync models. Now, all that's left to know is how well OD is implemented for 120 Hz. Korean "knock-off" brands don't have a particularly spectacular track record on this regard. If this is using a panel from a cheap LG TV model, we can kiss decent motion goodbye.

Also, this could be semi-glossy, which would be fantastic.
 

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It's definitely more interesting than having to pay north of 2K for the G-sync models. Now, all that's left to know is how well OD is implemented for 120 Hz. Korean "knock-off" brands don't have a particularly spectacular track record on this regard. If this is using a panel from a cheap LG TV model, we can kiss decent motion goodbye.
I don't think it's going to be the cheap version since that's the U430 ZEN model, and the 120Hz variant is readily available on eBay right now for purchase, for less than $500 (before shipping costs). From what I've seen, the Wasabi Mango UHD models are the normally the higher quality ones.

Also, this could be semi-glossy, which would be fantastic.
Yeah, I'm torn on this since my UHD420 is glossy, and because of that it's sometimes difficult to see what's happening on the screen if the in-game environment is too dark or the sunlight is entering the room at a bad time. I think I would still prefer glossy, though, as it does make everything a bit more crisp compared to the anti-gloss coating that you see elsewhere.
 

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Ok looks like I misinterpreted the product page wrong. It looks like it means that it comes with two DP 1.4 connections, both of which will do 4k120hz on their own rather than it takes both inputs in MST to run 4k120.
 

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Ok looks like I misinterpreted the product page wrong. It looks like it means that it comes with two DP 1.4 connections, both of which will do 4k120hz on their own rather than it takes both inputs in MST to run 4k120.
Well, that certainly makes more sense. I can't read Korean, and because the product page is built using images, it can't be translated, so it's hard to tell exactly what's going on in some areas.

I messaged dream-seller on eBay, who has sold Wasabi Mango products in the past, and asked if they're going to be offering this particular display in the near future. I think green-sum was another WM seller, so I'll shoot them a message as well to see what they say.
 

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Dual DP 1.4 is required if it is running [email protected] Hz 4:4:4 with HDR/10-bit color as advertised.

Of course with 400 cd/m2 edge lit backlight, it would be the hobbled HDR that won't get that bright.

I'd be concerned that the display doesn't have any overdrive, or overdrive not properly done for 120 Hz on this IPS panel. Especially considering tossing in 2x DP 1.4 input combining into the mix. Proper overdrive circuitry may be outside their capabilities. That could lead to smear city in motion.

And what do you do with a very large monitor shipped all the way from Korea if you have pixel or other defects. If this monitor actually has a decent overdrive circuit, it would probably be a better gaming monitor than the 27" FALD G-Sync displays coming out if you have the massive hardware to support no VRR.
 

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And what do you do with a very large monitor shipped all the way from Korea if you have pixel or other defects.
It's a risk you take, and it's a risk people have been taking since the CatLeap 1440p monitors were available 6+ years ago. I took the risk almost three years ago when I bought my UHD420—it was suffocated in bubble wrap and the display was fine, but others in the past had reported that their display came in a wooden crate (depends on the seller). I had a few friends also purchase Korean displays over the years, and some of their panels had a few dead pixels, while others didn't, but none of us paid extra for the "perfect pixel" option. Two of my friends who have dead pixels on their display say that they don't even notice them unless they're actually looking for them, as when you're dealing with 8+ million pixels on the screen, a few dark pixels in a corner can easily go unnoticed.

The Korean monitor market is not perfect, and anyone looking to buy into it should know that, as these panels, from what I understand, are those that are normally rejected by Apple/Samsung/LG and other big names because they're not 100% A+ panels, but you also don't normally pay the prices of the big brand names either.
 

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Ya I'm tracking all that. I had like six Catleaps way back. Just want to make sure people know what they are getting into when spending $1500 (after customs) on one of these that it may not be perfect.

I think the make or break on these will be if they have overdrive or not (and of course input lag sub 30ms). Looking at some reports from the 60 Hz version, definitely mixed reviews. People talking about stuck pixels, image retention, noticeable input lag, etc.
 

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Just want to make sure people know what they are getting into when spending $1500 (after customs) on one of these that it may not be perfect.
I just want to clarify that I did not incur any additional customs charges when I ordered mine from South Korea three years ago, and neither did the other three people whom I personally know—two of which bought a UHD420 after I had, and one who bought a first-gen UHD430 just last year—and we all reside in the Contiguous United States. The price we all paid was the price listed on the eBay page—it included free expedited shipping, and there were no hidden fees. However, I have heard that those who reside in the EU will likely have to pay a customs fee.

I think the make or break on these will be if they have overdrive or not (and of course input lag sub 30ms). Looking at some reports from the 60 Hz version, definitely mixed reviews. People talking about stuck pixels, image retention, noticeable input lag, etc.
I agree, there are mixed reviews, but I also wonder what peoples' expectations are when it comes to these. In the last three years I've purchased three displays from the Korean monitor market (UHD420 and two Qnix 1440p displays, all of which have been, and still are, part of my main setup that I use every day), and I continue to recommend them to people that I know. However, I always give them a full disclaimer with what could potentially happen (broken display due to international shipping of such a large item, dead pixels, etc.) before I begin showing them some choices, and I don't play it down as if it's no big deal, because being disappointed with a high-dollar item just plain sucks. I think there are some people who jump into this thinking they're going to get a cheaper version of an Apple Cinema display or something like that, when that isn't the case. It's very likely that you will get a very good display, not an ultra perfect display, but a very good one. Since, if the KMM was BS, then it wouldn't have the demand that it does nor would it have repeat customers (like myself and another friend of mine), and it probably would have died out awhile ago.
 

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I too rode the Korean wave way back in the Catleap 2b days.

However, the appeal back then was you were getting a premium display (Apples A-, B+ IPS rated discards) matted to an overclockable PCB with an unbeatable price of only a few hundred bucks (later on the Catleap 2b prices skyrocketed once they got popular and supply i.e. 2b PCBs got scarce).

The entire appeal of Korean displays was cheap affordability and getting way more than your moneys worth, which made taking the risk on a no name, no warranty display worth it.

However, $1,400 is not cheap and shipping costs have skyrocketed since 2011.....so returning a 43" to Korea would probably cost more than a small car lol.

Its one thing to gamble a couple hundred bucks on something you may or may not like or may or may not work right......but $1,400.... on something that would be impossible to resell even if I liked it (Ebay fees, Paypal fees, shipping costs, nightmarish Craigslist tire kickers).....NO THANKS. $500 I would throw away and take a gamble....but $1,400....



And before the hyperventelators say...but....but 4k120hz IS NOT CHEAP.... well I am typing this reply on a Zisworks X39 4k120 which cost me $490 total.
 

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Hi, I saw your post on Cragislist. Can I buy your monitor for $15?
I am sorry, but the services which I provided for $15 on Craigslist and Backpage are no longer allowed or legal in 49-1/2 US States!
 

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Interesting Competition to the new 144hz 4K Gsyncs and has peaked my interest:

+ 43" instead of measly 27"
+ $1,400 instead of $3,000+ (could go down probably will hover around $1000)
+ Semi-glossy (possibly?) vs ugly & grainy matte screen

+- No FLAD (seems like FLAD could be horrible with what I've seen so far)
+- Questionable panel quality (unknown yet)
+- Questionable overdrive or not like Vega mentioned

- No Gsync
- Harder/more expensive returns
 
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