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So, I have finally decided to upgrade my mobo, ram and cpu. I'm going for the FX6 - 6300 six core at 3.5Ghz. I've seen people saying they've had this cpu up to 5Ghz, so I was wondering, while trying to keep prices as low as possible, which would be better to keep the cpu at an acceptable temp while still overclocking to 5Ghz?
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i doubt u hit 5ghz on air cooling though i could be wrong

btw do you have a second account and u gave yourself 31 reps? amazing lol

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I posted something some people found funny, or it was my cheap PC that could play anything out at the time.

I'm just not sure if water cooling is worth it for the price, whether I could get a more efficient cpu fan for the same price or less.
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I posted something some people found funny, or it was my cheap PC that could play anything out at the time.

I'm just not sure if water cooling is worth it for the price, whether I could get a more efficient cpu fan for the same price or less.
You could probably hit 5ghz with air cooling but i dont think you could keep temps at an acceptable level

isnt it why most people buy water cooling to efficiently cool it
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btw 1 unique rep with over 31 reps means the same person gave you 31 reps
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Okay, so water cooling is what I'm after. Now, could someone possibly tell me what the difference between a closed loop and a custom loop?
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Okay, so water cooling is what I'm after. Now, could someone possibly tell me what the difference between a closed loop and a custom loop?
Closed loop is something like the H100i a waterblock and weak pump, which cant be opened

custom loop is where you buy the things in a kit or separately, res, pump tubing water block, gpu blocks fluid etc etc
Would a closed loop suffice? I've had no problems with GPU heat or heat anywhere else on my PC, I just want the CPU to stay cool at 5Ghz.
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Would a closed loop suffice? I've had no problems with GPU heat or heat anywhere else on my PC, I just want the CPU to stay cool at 5Ghz.
well not all cpu's can hit 5ghz but maybe a h100i could get u there efficiently, wouldnt be as good as a custom loop but they are alright i suppose
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Looks very pretty. I think I'll buy a cheap but effective cpu fan when I upgrade, and add the water cooler when I can afford another £100, and overclock then.

Thanks for the advice!
Dimensional-Warping Molecular-Level-Thermologically-Balanced Carbon Nanotube Hexaduple Quad-Phase 17-Parallel-Dimension Quantum-Tunneling Space-Fabric Rift block, with its accompanying Anti-Gravity Einsteinium-alloyed Magnetorheological Sub-Zero Kelvin Thermal Interface Material would work better, but if you can't manage that definitely go with a liquid cooling loop. Air cooling simply won't due for high overclocks on high leakage chips like the piledriver CPUs.

My recommendation is the H2O-H220 kits from swiftech, or if you aren't going to be getting it for a while you could get the H320. They're the best way to get into watercooling short of the Raystorm kits, and I tend to advise against those for AMD CPUs because the backplate on the AMD CPUs causes the XSPC Raystorm to bow, or so I've heard.
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Dimensional-Warping Molecular-Level-Thermologically-Balanced Carbon Nanotube Hexaduple Quad-Phase 17-Parallel-Dimension Quantum-Tunneling Space-Fabric Rift block, with its accompanying Anti-Gravity Einsteinium-alloyed Magnetorheological Sub-Zero Kelvin Thermal Interface Material would work better, but if you can't manage that definitely go with a liquid cooling loop. Air cooling simply won't due for high overclocks on high leakage chips like the piledriver CPUs.

My recommendation is the H2O-H220 kits from swiftech, or if you aren't going to be getting it for a while you could get the H320. They're the best way to get into watercooling short of the Raystorm kits, and I tend to advise against those for AMD CPUs because the backplate on the AMD CPUs causes the XSPC Raystorm to bow, or so I've heard.
You are correct sir, it warps worse than poor window frames in hot weather
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Unfortunately, you won't find an H220 for sale in America..
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And I was waiting it out for for the revisions to be shipped to Microcenter.

Also, not sure about the cheaper raystorm kits.. The cheaper pumps have no MTBF rating somewhat weaker impellers or so I've heard. Also I think only a 1 year warranty..
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Unfortunately, you won't find an H220 for sale in America..
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Fortunately I live in the UK.

I'll have to have a look at this, as at the moment for £150 - £170 I'm getting a 6 core 3.5ghz cpu, mobo and 4gb of ram to upgrade my rather dilapidated machine.
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Unfortunately, you won't find an H220 for sale in America..
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And I was waiting it out for for the revisions to be shipped to Microcenter.

Also, not sure about the cheaper raystorm kits.. The cheaper pumps have no MTBF rating somewhat weaker impellers or so I've heard. Also I think only a 1 year warranty..
Right, I suggested the H2O-H220, not the H220. Swiftech still sells kits from prefabbed Apogee Drive IIs and Apogee HDs, as opposed to their modified Apogee Drive they sell with the H220 CLC.

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g/c321/s818/list/p1/b33/Swiftech-Water_Cooling_Kits_-_Brands-Swiftech_Water_Cooling_Kits-Page1.html
Those water cooling systems cost more than the RAM, CPU and Mobo will combined...

I think my wallet just killed itself.
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Those water cooling systems cost more than the RAM, CPU and Mobo will combined...

I think my wallet just killed itself.
.-. It comes with the MCP35x pump, which is the best pump out there. That alone is around $100, then the Apogee HD is a $70, then factor in a radiator with quality fans. You get what you pay for.

Beyond that, they are EXTREMELY upgradable, compared to most kits. When I say they are upgradable, I mean specifically the pump. Other kits have sub par to medium end pumps. I've seen people use the MCP35x with dual SLI video cards in serial, a CPU, and 5 Hardwarelabs GT Xtreme rads which are very restrictive.

It's a good kit.
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